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Old 07-14-2007, 02:36 AM   #31
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There's also Red Yeast Rice Extract, which works as well or better than statin drugs
Red Yeast Rice IS a statin drug....just a naturally occurring one. If he has medical contraindications with statins, he should avoid RYR.
 
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Never been much for oatmeal but ive been eating it quite a bit the past couple of days, I dont use fish oil year round but i have used Flax seed oil for about 2 years but thats about to change.
Add instant oatmeal to your protein shakes.
 
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Old 07-17-2007, 06:56 AM   #33
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Red Yeast Rice IS a statin drug....just a naturally occurring one. If he has medical contraindications with statins, he should avoid RYR.
I didn't know that until someone pointed it out earlier. At one point many people on this board and others were recommending it for PCT, but in light of this info, I won't be advocating it's usage again. There are better options.
 



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Old 07-17-2007, 12:37 PM   #34
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As well, I have heard that the pharm companies/industry is trying to get it banned (or scheduled) because it contradicts/competes with their drug market.
 



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Old 07-17-2007, 03:02 PM   #35
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As well, I have heard that the pharm companies/industry is trying to get it banned (or scheduled) because it contradicts/competes with their drug market.
It figures - they can't make money from it, so they don't want anyone to have it.
 



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Old 07-17-2007, 10:45 PM   #36
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I didn't know that until someone pointed it out earlier. At one point many people on this board and others were recommending it for post cycle therapy, but in light of this info, I won't be advocating it's usage again. There are better options.
I think it's just fine for pct but people need to understand the possible complications.
 
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Well Anabolic Innovations must be listing to the hype on RYR because they took it out of there cycle support.
 
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Well Anabolic Innovations must be listing to the hype on RYR because they took it out of there cycle support.
No, they have two versions. One with ryr and one with plant sterols instead.
 
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No, they have two versions. One with ryr and one with plant sterols instead.


Why are you saying no. You just said they have a version without RYR.
 
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Why are you saying no. You just said they have a version without RYR.
You said "took it out of cycle support." I corrected your error. Some people have medical contraindications with statins. They're offering a different version for them in addition to the standard version.
 
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You said "took it out of cycle support." I corrected your error. Some people have medical contraindications with statins. They're offering a different version for them in addition to the standard version.
My bad. I understand. I guess when you order you have to make sure you ask for the one with or without.
 
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beelzebub did three blood work tests: pre cycle, post cycle, and post cycle support(i think). check out the link if you're considering cycle support, seems to be pretty effective stuff.

Cycle Support = Life Support ???
 
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Sounds like you got things rolling. When you get all your supporting supps ready you should post the protocol and post follow-up bloodwork... just to help some other people with high cholesterol, especially if everything comes back shining.
Update! Here is my proto.


4800 mg fish oil 2 1200mg pills twice ed

4000 mg garlic 1000mg 4xs ed

NOW policosanol 10mg twice daily

Oatmeal and blueberries

along with increased cardio


I will post my test results when i get them.

Again thank everyone for the suggestions.
 
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Looks great, let us know.

RRY was actually banned for a short time because of pharma lobbying but a judge overturned it because it is 100% DSHEA compliant. IMO, Statins are a last resort for people with really high chol numbers.
 





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Pectins

This is interesting:

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Pectin and pectin-like substances

Pectins are found in all plant cell walls, as well as in the outer skin and rinds of fruits and vegetables. For example the rind of an orange contains 30% pectin, an apple peel 15% and an onion skin 12%. The gel-forming properties of pectin are well known to anyone who has made jams or jellies. These same gel-forming qualities are for the cholesterol-lowering effects of pectins. Pectins lower cholesterol by binding it and bile acids in the gut and promoting their excretion

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Old 09-06-2007, 10:17 PM   #46
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UPDATE!!!!!!!

After a couple of weeks of running my proto
I had a blood test done for work (some crazy new insurance thing)and my results are promising.

My total cholesterol stayed the same but my LDL dropped 8 points and my HDL increased 2 points.

Now to be honest my diet hasnt been the greatest this whole time but for those couple weeks it was pretty darn good.
Conlusion= My protocol truly works!!!
In about 2 more months I will have another test done and I will fill you all in on the results.........

Again thank all of you for your help!
 
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I've been eating anywhere between 3-6 eggs per day for almost 2 years. I should really check out what my cholesterol is.

But can someone point out to me a link or info on Red Yeast Rice and how it's bad for some people as mentioned above or bad for Post Cycle Therapy.

I hear Niacin is also good for cholesterol...True?

Red Yeast Rice, Fish oil/Omegas/Flax, Garlic, Oatmeal, and others are good mixes for lowering your Cholesterol though.
 
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Old 09-08-2007, 01:54 PM   #48