Organic foods make any difference??
- 07-09-2007, 03:28 AM
Organic foods make any difference??
Organic foods are known to be healthier for you due to the lack of chemicals, such as antibiotics and growth hormones. I was just wondering if any better gains would possibly come from organic foods vs. the other stuff? Is there any research on this or anybody's opinions???
- 07-09-2007, 08:01 AM
Although not on point, here is something I found in regards to buying/eating organic foods.
What to splurge on-and what to skip-when it comes to organic food By Diane Peters
I'm what you might call a lazy organic. I think organic food is better for me, but I can't justify shelling out double for pesticide-free broccoli or buying frozen dinners that cost more than takeout. But I'm changing. I have a little guy at home in the high-chair stage and I pay a premium to ensure that his first foods contain fewer pesticides and antibiotics. Plus, my grocery store is making organic more affordable and available: organic baby food costs almost the same as regular, the organic produce section is growing daily, and I can pick up organic ice cream and tomato sauce at digestible prices. No wonder organic-food sales are jumping by 20 per cent every year.
Like me, you probably wonder whether an organic diet will boost your health and tantalize your taste buds enough to justify higher grocery bills. (One recent survey sponsored by Life Choices Natural Foods found that 55 per cent of Canadians eat organic foods occasionally.) To help determine what's worth putting in your shopping cart, I reviewed the research, talked to health experts and taste-tested a slew of products. Select a food group from the drop-down menu below for all you need to know.
Rice and grains
Farmers who grow wheat, barley, rye and rice organically avoid chemicals and genetically modified organisms (gmos). To be certified organic, packaged products such as bread, crackers and cookies have to be processed with organic ingredients in an approved factory.
Health difference About 43 per cent of non-organic grains tested by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration had pesticide residues, with wheat and oats more likely to be contaminated than barley and rice. It would be nice to know if organic grains are healthier, but few studies have been done to date. Tests do show that organic grain-fed chickens lay more eggs that keep longer, and that rats that eat organic grains have fewer stillborn babies.
Price difference Organic breads, cereals and rice sell for about $1 to $2 more on average than non-organic.
Your grocery cart
• Wheat- and oatmeal-based organic products, such as flour, pasta and bread, as well as organic rice, which is quite affordable.
• Cereals (I really liked Flax Plus Raisin Bran, which contains not only flaxseed but also 11 grams of fibre, instead of the five grams I get in my usual brand).
• Organic cereals for kids. Unlike conventional brands, they're usually not fortified with nutrients such as thiamine and riboflavin. Read labels carefully.
Fresh fruit and vegetables
That bag of organic salad greens seems like an investment purchase because, well, a farmer invested serious effort to keep chemicals away. Produce farmers can only be certified organic by an accredited certification body if they avoid using synthetic pesticides, herbicides and fertilizers and gmos (such as some seeds).
Health difference About 73 per cent of conventionally grown fruit and vegetables harbour pesticide and herbicide residues, compared with 23 per cent of their organically produced counterparts, according to a scientific review by the U.S. Consumers Union. At high levels, pesticides have been linked to cancer and reproductive problems.
"It's just common sense: if a pesticide can annihilate a bug, it won't do us a whole lot of good," says Vesanto Melina, a registered dietitian in Vancouver and author of Becoming Vegetarian: The Complete Guide to Adopting a Healthy Vegetarian Diet (John Wiley & Sons). While you may ingest a small amount of pesticides when you eat, say, a sprayed peach, Melina says that we still don't know what the cumulative health effects of a mixture of pesticides over a lifetime could be. Are organics more nutritious? While dozens of university studies have found that organic produce, such as strawberries, offers higher vitamin levels, some experts aren't convinced. "Current scientific evidence doesn't show that organic is any more nutritious," says Paul Fieldhouse, a nutrition policy and research analyst for Manitoba Health.
Price difference It varies by store, region and time of year, but everyday organic fruit and vegetables sell for about 10 to 20 per cent more. Some off-season fruit are prohibitive: I paid a staggering $10.48 for a bag of organic grapes in December.
Your grocery cart
• Organic apples, bell peppers, imported grapes, peaches, pears, raspberries and strawberries. Their non-organic counterparts have been identified by the U.S. Environmental Working Group as most likely to be contaminated.
• Organic lettuce and spinach, as well as root vegetables, such as potatoes.
• Herbs, especially more potent (but sometimes difficult to find) organic herbs for use in recipes that call for large amounts, such as parsley for tabbouleh.
• Organic asparagus, avocados, bananas, broccoli, cauliflower, sweet corn, onions and sweet peas. Their non-organic counterparts typically carry fewer pesticides.
Milk and cheese
Organically raised dairy cows live well in roomy stalls, graze whenever they want and munch on organic feed. If a cow gets sick, it can only be treated with certain medicines. Cows that are treated with antibiotics get tagged or removed, and their milk will never be sold as organic. Processed organic dairy foods are also made without dyes and fillers.
Health difference Ordinary Canadian milk is healthy, safe and free of insulin-like growth factor-1, a potentially carcinogenic hormone used often in the U.S. But it's possible that organic milk may contain more healthy ingredients than its conventional counterpart. A study from the Institute of Grassland and Environmental Research in Wales found that organic milk can contain 64 per cent more heart-friendly omega-3 fatty acid.
Price difference You'll pay substantially more for organic dairy products. (While I got a deal when I paid $2.59 for 500 millilitres of organic milk, my store stocks some 300-gram bricks of cheese for a daunting $8. Yikes!)
Your grocery cart
• Organic dairy products (I'll definitely buy organic ice cream again: Mapleton and PC Organics make great chocolate ice cream that's not too sweet).
• Organic milk. Canadian milk is quite clean, says Gunta Vitins, vice-president of marketing for Pro Organics, a Canadian organic foods distributor.
Meats, poultry and eggs
Pigs, cows and chickens that are organically raised live on chemical-free feed and aren't given growth hormones, antibiotics or animal-based feeds. When the end is near, organic animals are killed and processed in special organic slaughterhouses, or in regular ones first thing in the morning when they're still pristine.
Health difference Health Canada recently conducted a review of growth hormones that are used in regular Canadian beef and concluded that they are safe. But many experts disagree, given that high exposure to growth hormones in beef has been linked to cancer and hormonal problems, such as early puberty. Plus, our cows get regular vaccines and antibiotics, as do pigs, chickens and other farmed animals. "The degree and use of these products is probably highest in the hog industry," says John Hollinger, an organic agriculture specialist for Manitoba Agriculture, Food and Rural Initiatives. Studies have yet to confirm how this will impact our health.
Registered dietitian Melina says that pesticides in conventional meats are also a concern. "We know that pesticides concentrate as they move up the food chain," she says. One landmark study published in The New England Journal of Medicine found that vegan women had lower pesticide levels in their breast milk.
Virginia Worthington, a U.S.-based public health expert, has conducted several reviews of the literature on organics and says organic meats are higher in omega-3 and lower in fat. Organic eggs also offer higher omega-3 and beta carotene.
Price difference It costs farmers two to three times more to produce organic livestock, says Vitins, so meat, poultry and eggs go for about double the conventional cost. They can be difficult to find - you may have to visit a farmer's market or health food store.
Your grocery cart
• Organic meats and poultry, if you're spooked about hormones, pesticides and antibiotics and have the funds to cover a heftier bill. (My husband and I found organic back bacon, chicken and eggs tasty enough to justify their cost.)
• Organic meats and poultry, if you can't afford them. A more reasonable compromise might be to buy natural meats, available at health food stores. These animals have been given conventional feed but don't receive hormones or antibiotics.
Soups, chips and more
Under Canadian law, organic packaged foods contain only natural additives that help preserve food safety. That means no irradiation (where foods are blasted with high energy to help preserve them), no hydrogenation (read: no heart-harming trans fat) and no monosodium glutamate (msg).
Health difference Consuming fewer additives and preservatives may be beneficial to your health. Studies from the University of Illinois, among others, have shown that popular food additives might have negative effects in animals, such as increasing their risk of cancer. "The more natural the foods we eat, the better," says Kathy Gottschall-Pass, a nutrition professor at the University of Prince Edward Island. But since we have no conclusive proof of their danger to humans, there's no need to panic.
Price difference The range is wide: you can buy one jar of organic tomato sauce for $4, while another brand goes for $8. Larger, national organic-food distributors such as Nature's Path, Amy's and pc Organics tend to sell their wares cheaper than mom-and-pop organic-food producers.
Your grocery cart
• Organic soups and chips, which deliver taste without msg. I found Organic Yellow Corn Tostitos crunchy, not too salty and reasonably priced.
• Organic tomato-based products, which, in general, had a richer flavour. Try tomato sauces, frozen lasagnas and condiments such as Heinz Organic Ketchup.
• Organic versions of bad-for-you-but-so-good comfort foods. The macaroni-and-cheese dinner from pc Organics, with its bland cheese flavour and lack of creaminess, totally let me down.
• Frozen foods with organic meats - you'll often get a small serving and a low-quality cut.
07-09-2007, 03:40 PM
07-10-2007, 11:44 PM
07-11-2007, 01:17 AM
Thanks for the information.....it seems whether or not it is better for bodybuilding purposes is unknown, however just general health purposes seem likely. I noticed the article mentioned some high prices but really, I buy at Schunks and they are pretty reasonable......Maybe a few cents more or even a dollar but nothing outrageous.............I also found that the taste of organic food is better to me too..............
In reference to the post about Kevin's book, I had bought it in the past and thats exactly where I got the idea to eat organic food. I use water filters already and plan on buying a magnetic matress cover to see if it improves muscle recovery or takes away associated pains...........
Again, thanks for the replys guys.
07-11-2007, 09:00 AM
07-11-2007, 03:41 PM
As for pesticides on fruits and vegetables, it's called washing. Much cheaper than buying organic.
The growth hormones and antibiotics in meat are worrying, however.
07-11-2007, 09:54 PM
i have a nutrionist, she has 50 years experiece and is on the advisory council for several government bodies who swears by organic and states some of the things in the kevin trudaeu's book
07-11-2007, 09:59 PM
i have been eating pretty much all organic for the past 2-3mths and have experienced a much better overall feeling, and more energy.
07-12-2007, 03:38 AM
07-12-2007, 10:25 AM
Actually Kevin admits in his past about huge mistakes and does not try to hide it. Its a good read and you only have to pay shipping and handling fees if you find the infommerical.
Another note, I can tell when I eat organic and when I dont as well. Having gerd, my stomach has alot better of a feel with organic for some reason. I mean it makes me wonder how my esophagus got irritated anyways at 26 years old.
In reference to washing, if you read the posted article earlier, you will find that the majority of chemicals soak in the food and a very high percentage is still there no matter what you do. Plus, you can't really wash milk or cereal or vegetables, or drinks period. There is alot of organic foods, including chips and cookies that are very healthy for you that you could not wash. Plus if you didn't buy organic they are full of fat and other items that dont wash away.
07-14-2007, 07:59 PM
People have been eating non-organic foods for thousands of years, and there doesn't seem to be any problems with them. Organic foods are a fraud.
07-14-2007, 08:30 PM
Terms like "organic" "whole grain" "fat free" "low carb" "good for you" are just part of a marketing gimmick set to appeal to people trying to "get healthier". I'm not saying they're all bad, but you should definitely check the labels with these sorts of things because you'll be surprised to see what you find. Example: a lot of "whole grain" breads contain large amounts of HFS and Maltodextrin.......:WTF:
07-15-2007, 04:34 AM
Also, I wouldn't knock it till you try it. Eat organic for a month and then go back to your "normal" foods that you use to eat and see if you don't get ill from the chemicals.
07-15-2007, 09:18 AM
07-15-2007, 09:28 AM
I like orgasmic food.
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