Soft drinks may seriously harm you!
- 05-27-2007, 08:28 PM
Soft drinks may seriously harm you!
Caution: Some soft drinks may seriously harm your health
Expert links additive to cell damage
By Martin Hickman, Consumer Affairs Correspondent
Published: 27 May 2007
A new health scare erupted over soft drinks last night amid evidence they may cause serious cell damage. Research from a British university suggests a common preservative found in drinks such as Fanta and Pepsi Max has the ability to switch off vital parts of DNA.
The problem - more usually associated with ageing and alcohol abuse - can eventually lead to cirrhosis of the liver and degenerative diseases such as Parkinson's.
The findings could have serious consequences for the hundreds of millions of people worldwide who consume fizzy drinks. They will also intensify the controversy about food additives, which have been linked to hyperactivity in children.
Concerns centre on the safety of E211, known as sodium benzoate, a preservative used for decades by the £74bn global carbonated drinks industry. Sodium benzoate derives from benzoic acid. It occurs naturally in berries, but is used in large quantities to prevent mould in soft drinks such as Sprite, Oasis and Dr Pepper. It is also added to pickles and sauces.
Sodium benzoate has already been the subject of concern about cancer because when mixed with the additive vitamin C in soft drinks, it causes benzene, a carcinogenic substance. A Food Standards Agency survey of benzene in drinks last year found high levels in four brands which were removed from sale.
Now, an expert in ageing at Sheffield University, who has been working on sodium benzoate since publishing a research paper in 1999, has decided to speak out about another danger. Professor Peter Piper, a professor of molecular biology and biotechnology, tested the impact of sodium benzoate on living yeast cells in his laboratory. What he found alarmed him: the benzoate was damaging an important area of DNA in the "power station" of cells known as the mitochondria.
He told The Independent on Sunday: "These chemicals have the ability to cause severe damage to DNA in the mitochondria to the point that they totally inactivate it: they knock it out altogether.
"The mitochondria consumes the oxygen to give you energy and if you damage it - as happens in a number if diseased states - then the cell starts to malfunction very seriously. And there is a whole array of diseases that are now being tied to damage to this DNA - Parkinson's and quite a lot of neuro-degenerative diseases, but above all the whole process of ageing."
The Food Standards Agency (FSA) backs the use of sodium benzoate in the UK and it has been approved by the European Union but last night, MPs called for it to investigate urgently.
Norman Baker, the Liberal Democrat chair of Parliament's all-party environment group said: "Many additives are relatively new and their long-term impact cannot be certain. This preservative clearly needs to be investigated further by the FSA."
A review of sodium benzoate by the World Health Organisation in 2000 concluded that it was safe, but it noted that the available science supporting its safety was "limited".
Professor Piper, whose work has been funded by a government research council, said tests conducted by the US Food and Drug Administration were out of date.
"The food industry will say these compounds have been tested and they are complete safe," he said. "By the criteria of modern safety testing, the safety tests were inadequate. Like all things, safety testing moves forward and you can conduct a much more rigorous safety test than you could 50 years ago."
He advised parents to think carefully about buying drinks with preservatives until the quantities in products were proved safe by new tests. "My concern is for children who are drinking large amounts," he said.
Coca-Cola and Britvic's Pepsi Max and Diet Pepsi all contain sodium benzoate. Their makers and the British Soft Drinks Association said they entrusted the safety of additives to the Government.
- 05-27-2007, 10:06 PM
- 05-27-2007, 10:31 PM
i stopped drinking soda 10 days ago. now im REALLY happy i did.
05-27-2007, 10:44 PM
and they wonder why there is an obesity epidemic
05-28-2007, 08:48 AM
I really got to taper off. I am now at 1-2 a day.
05-28-2007, 08:59 AM
i had quit drinkin them for about 2 years then the last cycle i ran i craved soda's, cake and donuts. so i ended up drinkin a few soda's a week until i was like wtf am i doin.
05-28-2007, 11:43 AM
^ I wonder if your craving for sugary foods and drinks was due to a serotonin depletion from the anabolic steroids. (sorry for getting off topic)
This is an interesting finding. I'm glad I have only drank 2 sodas a week for the last 4 years.
05-28-2007, 11:46 AM
05-28-2007, 01:48 PM
I see a lot students at my school consume soft drinks all the time. Some consume 2-3 a day
05-28-2007, 01:51 PM
- 5'10" 220 lbs.
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05-28-2007, 11:01 PM
05-28-2007, 11:04 PM
i try to chime in from time to time but the kids flip out if they have to eat normal food. its going to get ugly for them when they start getting fat.
05-28-2007, 11:26 PM
In short, harsh methyls that cause the quasi-choleostasis that we all know about also drive me deep into depression. Upon looking into the primary lit, mostly from european sources, low cholesterol levels are directly linked with low serotonin and an increase in depression, aggression and other mental illnesses. The American medical establishment seems completely unaware of this or, IMO, is ignoring it to sell more statins.
Coupled with the serotonin crash that is possible during periods of hypoglycemia, it can make for some very unpleasant mood swings.
05-28-2007, 11:29 PM
I think that's a form of child abuse if you ask me. The thing is that it takes years for the effects to fully kick in. 4-6 soft drinks a day is insane. Whatever happened to water LOL ?
05-28-2007, 11:32 PM
05-29-2007, 07:04 AM
05-31-2007, 03:26 PM
i only drink one soda a day and thats in the morning. no beer,milk,coffee,wine, and tea only water. now im not going to drink my one soda in the morining anymore
05-31-2007, 04:05 PM
one of my friends is a power lifter and drinks around 3-4 cans of dr.pepper daily.
05-31-2007, 06:31 PM
Does he lift crazy though? rememebr if you burn more than you eat its ok.... hahaone of my friends is a power lifter and drinks around 3-4 cans of dr.pepper daily.
05-31-2007, 11:00 PM
He's a big boy, muscular but has some chunk.. most pl's do. His coach is always on his ass about drinking so much soda... w/e though, he likes it and does well come comp day. He's got the "if its not broken don't fix it" attitude lol.
06-01-2007, 01:43 AM
06-01-2007, 11:45 AM
06-01-2007, 12:00 PM
i dont drink soda anywhoo and havnt for a couple years (like3)... i drink an energy drink err day though but its 50% juice (the juiced guava Rockstar) and it doesnt contain sodium benzoate, just benzoic acid, wich i assume isnt the bad one, since it specifically said it takes sodium benzoate AND vit c to make the bad corcinogenic effects....
06-01-2007, 12:44 PM
06-02-2007, 01:26 PM
06-02-2007, 09:16 PM
06-03-2007, 02:20 AM
you mean with breakfast ????
06-03-2007, 09:04 AM
The difference between the -oate and the acid is a functional group change. The -oate is an ester, which is made from an organic acid.
What I don't know is if the body can convert the acid to the ester - if so, that would mean benzoic acid is just as bad (depending on how well that conversion could happen).
06-03-2007, 09:32 AM
I can tell you this, anything with Sodium Benzoate, or really anything that ends in "ate" or "ite" gives me HORRENDOUS heartburn, so I'd believe ANYTHING bad you say about it.
However, "Dr. Peter Piper" sounds a little fishy to me.
But good info!
06-03-2007, 10:22 AM
06-03-2007, 10:31 AM
After I thought about it - it takes a SH*T-TON of energy to strip off the functional groups from the phenyl molecule (the benzene).
I'd go to Snopes - but I think the link above proves this article is a bunch of BS.
06-03-2007, 10:34 AM
I'll look some more - but I need something more concrete than Peter North telling me soft drinks plus Vitamin C yield benzene.
Teh internets -->
06-03-2007, 10:46 AM
11-20-2011, 10:04 PM
Quitting soda was the best decision I've ever made. It may not kill you directly, but it will certainly cause health issues that may put a dent in your bank account.
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