Carb Cycling is not for the weak!

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  1. Opus was bruttle, I did 2 weeks and have never returned to that horror! 30/0/70 (p/c/f) was crazy, and the weekend carb ups were insane also. Great diet for those last few BF% but I don't know if I can handle that again. I can do 60-100gs of carbs no problem, normally I take in around 150gms a day but I'm going to start cycling also and will probably do 30-50gms on low days.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Ubiquitous
    On my no-carb days I only eat meat and eggs with cheese. Been doing that for a couple years. On my low-carb days I eat a lot of spinach and a cup of broccoli or something similar. I use a buttload of olive oil on my spinach with whole milk parm cheese. On my higher carb days I eat low GI's... and high GI's PWO. I notice that once I hit ketosis the whole foggy brain situation goes away and I'm alert again.
    Thanks for the input Ubi. I would have to buy a gas mask before I do a day of cheese and eggs around her.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by max silver
    Carbohydrate Cycling for Cuts | Skip's Fitness Emporium - (Version 5.0)

    This was posted in another thread on the forum. I don't follow this method personally, as I find that after a second low carb day I'm feeling like death.

    Have you seen Twin Peak's carbohydrate cycling diet? I find that one is reasonably easy to follow, although his plan contains no carb days which I simply can't handle. More information is posted up in the magazine section of the Avant Labs site.

    I've found that avoiding going below 50 grams on my lowest days has kept my brain functional. I do find that I tend to get tired on days such as this, and tend to have short naps during the day as I feel the need arise.

    Awesome! Thanks for the link. Now lets see if I can give you that star!


    Edit: Crap, no star.

  4. I'm gonna tell it like it is.

    Rage, you're a whiny byatch!!!! Honestly, this will probably make your future cuts MUCH easier. Now you know what needs to be done and you KNOW you can do it. I think getting that big cut done is a big deal and you have to train your mind and body and you're good going forward. Just my perspective...

    Sounds like you're making some good progress... you'll be ripped up in no time.

    So.......when's the stage calling your name? Year or two?

  5. Whiney ***** huh? Well...OK but what's up with those cute stockings you have on in your avy? :-p

    Thanks for the motivational ***** slaps. This definetely opened up a new world for me and you're right, in the future I'll know which route to take.
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  6. Those are sexy fool!!!!!!! Or that's what I'm told. I know you're turned on.

    Don't get lazy and go back to your old chinese buffet, muscle milk fantasies (wait that's me)... you only have 2 weeks and you're there. Just think how damn ripped you'll be then. Granted, everyone will think you're juicing but then just squeeze their little heads and they'll shut up!

    Keep up the hard work bro, you're well on your way!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rage (SoCal)
    Whiney ***** huh? Well...OK but what's up with those cute stockings you have on in your avy? :-p

    Thanks for the motivational ***** slaps. This definetely opened up a new world for me and you're right, in the future I'll know which route to take.

  7. Ive run a CKD before, with <10 of carbs everyday for the first 2 weeks. It was rough...the carb cravings werent so bad for me but the strength loss sucked. I plan to either carb cycle or get on a CKD again soon here (Ive been saying that for months now)

    Make sure you throw a refeed in there every couple weeks or so Rage! Good luck with the cut!!

    BV

  8. 2 weeks! Holy crap, I hope that was for a comp? 5 days is long enough imo, after that I lose to much strength and I get lethargic. Of course that's nothing a shot of olive oil wouldn't cure!

  9. 2 weeks! Holy crap, I hope that was for a comp? 5 days is long enough imo, after that I lose to much strength and I get lethargic. Of course that's nothing a shot of olive oil wouldn't cure!
    Na, it was looking in the mirror and suddenly coming to the realize that a 5-year bulk was a bit too long

    BV

  10. Quote Originally Posted by BigVrunga
    Na, it was looking in the mirror and suddenly coming to the realize that a 5-year bulk was a bit too long

    BV
    What's wrong with a 5 year bulk? That's what I've been doing LoL.

  11. BAHAHAHAHAH! Yeah, it's been a long time coming. I need to finally do this, I put all of the hard work and determination in but I never reach the point I want to be at. Thanks for the support. I just may start logging some progress here.


    I woke up this morning and I swear to all that is holy, I am making daily process. I'm going to carb up tomorrow and then have moderate carbs on Sunday as thats a big leg day for me.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by BigVrunga
    Ive run a CKD before, with <10 of carbs everyday for the first 2 weeks. It was rough...the carb cravings werent so bad for me but the strength loss sucked. I plan to either carb cycle or get on a CKD again soon here (Ive been saying that for months now)

    Make sure you throw a refeed in there every couple weeks or so Rage! Good luck with the cut!!

    BV
    LOL, refeed every couple of weeks! Are you out of your friggin mind? I'm going to get in a semi cheat day tomorrow to celebrate my best bud's b-day. There is no way I could go 2 weeks straight with carbs like that. I thought something was wrong with my cabeza but you mofos are just straight up insane.



  13. Quote Originally Posted by not_big_enuf
    Those are sexy fool!!!!!!! Or that's what I'm told. I know you're turned on.

    Don't get lazy and go back to your old chinese buffet, muscle milk fantasies (wait that's me)... you only have 2 weeks and you're there. Just think how damn ripped you'll be then. Granted, everyone will think you're juicing but then just squeeze their little heads and they'll shut up!

    Keep up the hard work bro, you're well on your way!!!!!!!
    The only way that Avy could be more attractive is if you spreaded nonfat cottage cheese all over your legs.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Rage (SoCal)
    Whoa! How long are you going to keep this up? Keep us posted on your stats and results.
    Hopefully just 4 weeks, 5 tops. I'll definatley let you know how it works out.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by not_big_enuf
    Those are sexy fool!!!!!!! Or that's what I'm told. I know you're turned on.

    Don't get lazy and go back to your old chinese buffet, muscle milk fantasies (wait that's me)... you only have 2 weeks and you're there. Just think how damn ripped you'll be then. Granted, everyone will think you're juicing but then just squeeze their little heads and they'll shut up!

    Keep up the hard work bro, you're well on your way!!!!!!!


    Too late on that chinese buffet huh rage?

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Achilles13
    Too late on that chinese buffet huh rage?

    HAHAA! Actually, he was talking about himself. He's a fatty. But, funny you mention it because before the chinese food I mentioned, I did go to a buffet.

  17. So, I had the opportunity to carb up this weekend, yesterday in particular. Feeling good, measurements on my arms still the same which I am very happy about although I feel a lot smaller. I think this is primarily the case of having low glycogen storages. So, I have a pretty tuff week ahead of me. I hope to get in a lot of chicken and if everything goes as planned, maybe take another 1-2lbs of fat off. I'm going to carb cycle Monday-Friday which should get me to that 2lb loss mark.

    So the plan this week is to do low carbs M-F (5 days) and taper down my carbs with today being my highest carb day. I'm really going to try to push my own envelope on this one and see what kind of tolerance my body can put out. One thing I'll need to watch is my fat intake, it needs to be higher than it was last week. And, hopefully I'll be able to get in my cardio this week.

    Here is what my menu is like today:


    Meal 1 07:30am
    (don't have the time to make anything in the AM):

    30 grams of protein from shake - consumed over a 30 min period
    17 grams of carbs from oats w/ splenda

    Meal Two 10:00am

    5 egg whites w/ turkey

    45 grams protein, 5 grams fat.

    Meal Three 12:00pm

    1 can of tuna w/ 1 pickle

    24 grams of protein, 1 gram carbs, 3 grams of fat

    Meal Four: 1/2lb steam brocolli

    ??? grams of carbs

    Meal 5

    Watermelon and Oats (Pre-workout) w/ Whey shake

    30 grams carbs and 30 grams protein

    130 grams protein
    50 grams carbs
    10 grams healthy fats


    Breakdown for food consumed by 3pm.


    520 cals protein/ 200 cals carbs / 90 grams fat

    64% protein / 25% carbs / 10% carbs


    I really don't like the look of my fats. I'm going to pick up some almonds tonight which will helps a lot with that. I'm also going to start preparring some of my food with olive oil. I stop eating around 8pm so this is just a breakdown of what I'm going to go through at work in an 8 hour period. I figure I'm eating often enough with enough fibrous carbohydrates to spark my metabolism. As you can see my numbers will turn out to be way below daily maintenance. I'm only doing this because of time constraints and understand the implications of doing so. I have even changed my lifting routine. Also, I plan to introduce the supplement of Arginine and Leucine to help my body stay away from a catabolic state.

  18. Walnuts are the best choice imo, with almonds second, while they taste like crap alone, I mix them with cottage cheese etc to get them in. 200 cals of carbs, wow I know I'm dyin here when that sounds like heaven! Although I have been hitting between 70-100...just a few more days and I'll be there. But I must say, how can you breath with that many calories no less work out? I know you've got a deadline but man that has gotta hurt.

  19. You're a mean bastad. You fat fock! I hope your cottage cheese spoils and you have to go into the ER and you get put on an IV for 5 weeks and you get tiny!!!!!!!!!

    BAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

    Rat bastad!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rage (SoCal)
    HAHAA! Actually, he was talking about himself. He's a fatty. But, funny you mention it because before the chinese food I mentioned, I did go to a buffet.

  20. Heh, well. I can only pack so much food for work, today I came with 5 things of tuperware. Also keep in mind that I have a post workout shake and oats as well as a post workout meal. So, I'll probably get in another 900-1k cals before my day is over. We'll see. For the most part, I sit down a lot so I get by with that many cals but....I definetely don't feel great doing it. What's the daily menu look like for you?

  21. There's lots of it Rage, that's for sure....

    Quote Originally Posted by Rage (SoCal)
    I really don't like the look of my fats.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by not_big_enuf
    You're a mean bastad. You fat fock! I hope your cottage cheese spoils and you have to go into the ER and you get put on an IV for 5 weeks and you get tiny!!!!!!!!!

    BAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

    Rat bastad!
    LOL, someone got their panties in a bunch. I bet you were drinking your Muscle Milk shake w/ ice cream when you typed that. Damn fatties always looking for new ways to add those pounds. Question: When you go to the chinese buffet, how many Muscle Milks to you bring with you? A gallon's worth...oh yeah...but that is right. Muscle Milk doesn't have any high GI carbs.

  23. I'm drinking three Muscle Milk's right now. One for each inch my biceps have on yours after this big cut of your!!!!!!!

    How's the sanity going big man? Only what, 10 days or something left? Keep pushing tubby... not far to go!!!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rage (SoCal)
    LOL, someone got their panties in a bunch. I bet you were drinking your Muscle Milk shake w/ ice cream when you typed that. Damn fatties always looking for new ways to add those pounds. Question: When you go to the chinese buffet, how many Muscle Milks to you bring with you? A gallon's worth...oh yeah...but that is right. Muscle Milk doesn't have any high GI carbs.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Rage (SoCal)
    Heh, well. I can only pack so much food for work, today I came with 5 things of tuperware. Also keep in mind that I have a post workout shake and oats as well as a post workout meal. So, I'll probably get in another 900-1k cals before my day is over. We'll see. For the most part, I sit down a lot so I get by with that many cals but....I definetely don't feel great doing it. What's the daily menu look like for you?
    I'm hitting 2300-2700 depending on low or high carbs, my maintenance cal is around 3500, I pretty much sit all day also. So I'm cutting around 1000 cals a day but it's freekin slow!

  25. Quote Originally Posted by not_big_enuf
    I'm drinking three Muscle Milk's right now. One for each inch my biceps have on yours after this big cut of your!!!!!!!

    How's the sanity going big man? Only what, 10 days or something left? Keep pushing tubby... not far to go!!!!!!!!!
    Sanity is defientely an issue. Unfortunately, my sleep has been under par and this has affected me greatly. Hopefully I can get my schedule back under controll. For now, I just have to keep reminding myself that this is for not much longer. I'm really going to be cranky by Thursday-Friday. I may try 20grams of carbs on Friday. We'll see.

    P.S. You'll need another 2 inches on those T-Rex arms before you get close to passing me.
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