Checkout tihs diet from RESPECTED local trainer...
03-27-2006 04:19 PM
Eh, you just like to argue. It wasn't that it wasn't 'optimal', it was probably downright detrimental.
Originally Posted by houseman
To me, unless its pure ignorance that built the diet, he's almost a crook.
03-27-2006 04:25 PM
I'm not arguing anything man. I'm simply saying that if she got the results she wanted (initially) then that is what matters.
Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00
Now that she is a bit more "less green" and perhaps understands things a bit better its a good thing that she's seeking out other people, like yourself, to get her BETTER results now.
No need to be to defensive.
03-27-2006 04:40 PM
Well, my apologies for taking it the wrong way.
Well, she didnt' feel like she wasted her money--not from what I tell anyway.
03-27-2006 04:57 PM
I see what House is trying to say. Most people today look for whatever is the fastest and easiest for results and that is for everything. If it wasn't true then the infomercial craze would of died out.
It's not ethically sound what these guys are doing but if their livelyhood depends on it then they have to do what gets them money. Quick results get money.
Same with docs and giving out drugs to patients who demand em or they're taking their business elsewhere. Not all of em do it but many will. Same in all industries where making the client happy nets income.
Just give thanks to the people we have on the boards and trainers like Bobo who tell it like it is and do what's right over what you want to hear.
03-29-2006 03:39 PM
I completely understand what House is saying. Though he's an argmentative a$$ (that's a compliment) and will argue with anyone about anything (you know what you are... don't hide it because I'm the same way... I'll argue just because I can at times)... he's got an extremely valid point.
I'm getting into the personal training realm and one of the things I'm talking to clients about on day one is "what are your realistic goals?" I think we can give them options and then educate them, but ultimately THEY PAY US for RESULTS. If we explain the drawbacks, etc, why they SHOULD do it this way instead, then that's all we can do.
Or, are we as personal trainers put into a position where we have to only do things the "right" way? If we arm our clients with the education that they this isn't the healthy way to do things, but it can work for immediate results, are we to blame? Do we not give them the option?
How many of use here undestand shortcuts? How many of us use AAS/PHs, etc, when we surely haven't reached our potential and don't need them? We know the risks, we've done the research, and we're willing to take them.... so should our clients get anything more? I don't know... just posing a few questions...
03-29-2006 03:43 PM
Umm thanks. I think? lol
Originally Posted by not_big_enuf
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