View Poll Results: How important is diet in your opinion?

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  • I have less than 1 years's experience. I'm just looking to learn.

    10 4.61%
  • 1-5 years' experience. Diet doesn't change much of anything.

    0 0%
  • 1-5 years' experience. Diet is of some importance.

    1 0.46%
  • 1-5 years' experience. Diet is pretty important.

    24 11.06%
  • 1-5 years' experience. Diet is the most important thing, no matter what supps/juice I use.

    92 42.40%
  • >5 years' experience. Diet doesn't change much of anything.

    0 0%
  • >5 years' experience. Diet does change things somewhat.

    1 0.46%
  • >5 years' experience. Diet is pretty important.

    16 7.37%
  • >5 years' experience. Diet is the most important thing, no matter what supps/juice I use.

    73 33.64%

The importance of diet to bodybuilding

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  1. Re: The importance of diet


    Grunt, you're a freakin' genious! When my next bulker comes around, I'm gonna try that. I can't wait to hear what my wife will have to say about that. I imagine, though, that whole roasters are fairly inexpensive. I probably won't go for organic, since I am poor white trash ovah heah. I bet I could get about six meals out of a 5 lb bird, though she'd probably want a drumstick or wing. Stuff that down with some brown rice, salad, broccoli, and a couple pieces of fruit and I bet I'll cover all my bases and still keep the fat nice an low.

    You know, right now I am trying to maintain and to that end am eating about 2800~3000 cals a day, but I am starting to suspect that I am below maintenance with that. Especially since I am back doing cardio regularly. I totally had to drop the cardio when I was on SD, it was just too difficult, painful, etc. Perhaps it would be important to mention that the 'perfect diet' is one that is flexible to one's circumstances? I probably need to tweak mine, but I'm kind of waiting and seeing since I'm trying DS's Rebound Reloaded.

  2. Re: The importance of diet


    whole chopped up chickens at walmart at 3.80. last a couple days for one person.
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    yeah i buy bbq roasted chickens everytime i work at vitamin world, whole chickens does abody good
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    The walmart in my town only has dry goods and some stuff in the freezers, no deli, or fresh produce. Oh and they have alot of crap that breaks right away, irritating employees, and horrible return policy, i was on my 3rd watch then i bought somewhere else.
    insectgod I feel the best way for me to bulk with somewhat clean calories, although I tend to go the 5000-6000 cals route when assisted because my maintenance is about 4000, is to eat a whole chicken every day. A 5-lb chicken (organic, this is what I eat) has 425g protein and 138g of fat. Now you might think this is a lot of fat, but if you stay near fat-free in the rest of your stuff, veggies, fish, shakes, etc. I find that's not too bad.

    Plus it's super-easy. Pop it in the oven for 2 hours and you've got a bunch of snacks or a couple meals. I dunno about you, but cold chicken is pretty good in my book, I can just pop it into a plastic container, carry it pretty much anywhere and eat it cold. Yum. Protein.
    Good advice grunt76 as usual you cheap, ahem smart man .lol
  5. Re: The importance of diet


    Quote Originally Posted by mab904
    In my opinion, diet is the most important aspect of the bodybuilding lifestlye. And also a major factor in a person's overall health and longevity. Unfortunately I have found that most people, in the gym and otherwise, are unwilling to put forth the effort needed to feed their bodies correctly. They are perpetually searching for that magic supplement or pill that will give them the results they desire. There is no such pill. People always ask me, "what can I take?" and "what do you take?" When I tell them it's all about how and what I eat, they stop listening. Like I'm hiding something from them. It can be so frustrating at times.
    I often get the "I want to look like you!..tell me what to do!" ...when I tell these wannabees that I do aerobics at 5am for 1 hour...followed by a glass of fresh squeezed juice, an eggwhite omelette and some cottage cheese, papaya, grapes, melons, etc...99% of them are walking away at that time...just lazy people wanting something the easy way. Bodybuilding builds character...it takes creativity, dedication, commitment, serious willpower, devotion... and much more. A serious bodybuilder can achieve anything in life with the characteristics he/she has gained from this sport and lifestyle.
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    I have def toned up and dropped some bf.. but i still have 20 pds or so before I do a serious bulk..I eat clean and frequently at work...I often get asked "whats that powdered **** you drinking"? Protein..Im trying to drop some extra weight...then the lard ass with the 20 oz pepsi (2nd one for the day) on his desk and little debbie wrappers everywhere, starts to give me diet and nutrition advice.

    Pisses me off...happens all the time.
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    I'm sure its been said, but without a good diet AND good training you won't get anywhere. Remove either of those factors and you'll have no chance. A good diet is so important that it tends to get on my nerves. I'll train hard and get lazy with the diet and know in the back of my head that I'm just wasting a work-out if I do that. : /
  8. Re: The importance of diet


    I like experimenting with my diet. Makes me feel like a mad scientist, and that for some reason, gives me a warm fuzzy inside.
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    Cant build a brick house without bricks. nuff said lol
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    Diet is the most important that is a given. only a couple of people said cardio. Getting your heart rate up for at least 30min is 2nd best. Working out is great but for melting fat you need clean diet and cardio. Then of course training is good the more muscle the more the body burns fat. Supplements are last. I know a guy in the gym and he is one of the biggest gys in there and he doesnt have the money to spend on all the supplements. So he eats real clean trains and does cardio and if he can afford it he gets a good protein powder. Thats it. And he is 235 and shreded and is only 5'8
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  11. Re: The importance of diet


    Quote Originally Posted by Grunt76
    insectgod I feel the best way for me to bulk with somewhat clean calories, although I tend to go the 5000-6000 cals route when assisted because my maintenance is about 4000, is to eat a whole chicken every day. A 5-lb chicken (organic, this is what I eat) has 425g protein and 138g of fat. Now you might think this is a lot of fat, but if you stay near fat-free in the rest of your stuff, veggies, fish, shakes, etc. I find that's not too bad.

    138 grams of fat? Is that with the skin or without?
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    This seems to be including the skin, because these organic birds are MUCH leaner than the standard ones, and the "whole chicken" nutritional information that I used to make that assertion is higher in fat %-wise than the "thigh only" whereas the breast is almost fat-free. If you follow my meaning. Here:

    Organic Chicken Breast
    Nutrition Information

    Calories: 110
    From Fat: 10 Total Fat 1 g.
    Saturated Fat .5 g.
    Cholesterol 65 mg.
    Sodium 160 mg.
    Total Carbs 0 g.
    Protein 22 g.


    Organic Chicken Thighs
    Nutrition Information

    Calories: 180
    From Fat: 110 Total Fat 12 g.
    Saturated Fat 4 g.
    Cholesterol 85 mg.
    Sodium 75 mg.
    Total Carbs 0 g.
    Protein 19 g.


    Organic Whole Chicken
    Nutrition Information
    (Serving Size 4OZ. (112G)) Calories: 210
    From Fat: 130 Total Fat 17 g.
    Saturated Fat 5 g.
    Cholesterol 95 mg.
    Sodium 70 mg.
    Total Carbs 0 g.
    Protein 21 g.


    If you were to use 8 servings of thigh and 8 servings of breast, the nutritional information adds up to:
    Nutrition Information
    Calories: 2320
    From Fat: 960 Total Fat 106 g.
    Saturated Fat 20 g.
    Cholesterol 1200 mg.
    Sodium 1880 mg.
    Total Carbs 0 g.
    Protein 328 g.

    Bulking needs calories. Most of the energy for growing muscle can easily come from fat, that isn't a problem.
    Last edited by Grunt76; 03-05-2006 at 12:46 PM.
  13. Re: The importance of diet


    Quote Originally Posted by ryano
    138 grams of fat? Is that with the skin or without?
    I agree that it's not a bad amount of fat, but considering the fact that you should be getting omega-3,6,9 fats and maybe even flax seed, I think it's best to watch the amount of animal fats that are consumed. They're definitely less than ideal fats.
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    Could just inject one of those bad boys... with some bacon grease,butter, and some spices.

    Seriously though ...just taking of the skin would reduce the fat considerably...

    I am going to try this approach on my next bulk. If anything. I have to break in my new Smokey Mountain Weber.
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    Or have you all ever heard this one: "What is the best fat burner?" I was asked by my bro a few weeks back, and I told him that it's all about the food you eat. Fat burners will only assist you only if your diet is in check. Then he starts telling me he drinks coke, eats sweets, snacks late, etc.....WTF.....

    Although, I have to admit that I was one of those that thought the latest pill on the market was going to help me get lean and big. Little did I know food was cheaper and 100x better!
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    For the endomorphs keeping the diet in check all-year round is 'a must'. Lucky ppl seem to get results without paying so much attention to what they eat, but surely 'dieting' pays off.
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    To chime in on this thread (because I love to voice my opinions, lol) -

    If your training is 100% in line, dieting dictates how much fat you gain when building up, and how much muscle you lose when cutting down. This is important if you want to stay lean most of the time, because if your diet is not in line you will end up getting fat trying to bulk, then lose all the muscle and strength you just gained trying to lean back down - a nasty tread mill. If you only care about getting big and strong as hell, diet isn't really that important (see: dave tate).

    As far as looking pretty, it's all about diet I don't think logging what you eat is really that important though, unless you are trying to go sub-12% bf. It's pretty easy to keep your calorie count in check just by limiting fatty food intake and eating a reasonable portion of food on a regular schedule. I'm sure you could get slightly better results by counting meticulously, but I don't think it's worth it for the majority of people out there.
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    About amount of fat in the diet, It is so hard to go to 40/40/20 protein/carb/fat. It is easy to go like 35/35/30.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xaktsaroth
    About amount of fat in the diet, It is so hard to go to 40/40/20 protein/carb/fat. It is easy to go like 35/35/30.
    True, although some people naturally dislike fatty foods. Not me though. For some people, the % of macros seems to be more important than for others.

    This explains the neverending debate in nutrition circles about "cals in / cals out" and "not all cals are the same" shools of thought.
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    i had a question in terms of losing bodyfat which cardio equipment is more productive the treadmill or elipitical climbers or walkers i should say. My friend said bikes and stairclimbers are more effective i argued and said that treadmill burns more fat around the whole body .

    so which one is more effective in terms of burning fat thanks guys.
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    hey grunt how is the training and cardio going i notice your on a mission to get to 8 percent bodyfat can you post your diet and what is your cardio like right now thanks bro. and how you doing with your goals right now thanks.
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    As a new comer this is a great thread and does emphasis a good diet. I was just getting tired of making the same salad and dressing and got thick again, it's hard to have a healthy, tasty variety but you gotta work for what you want.

    And from personal experience what you eat does so much more for you then the workout, I think to myself as there are so many more disieses and cancers probably the result of synthetic or bio engineered foods, let alone increadibly unhealthy fast foods.

    With working out with roman and a beer(college ignorence) and having no energy before during and after workout. To Eating good and working out every other day, and feeling better with energy throughout the day. Most people are just to lazy/ignorent to think that it could fix most things that bother you. "D+E" diet and excercise the first thing your doctor says
  23. Re: The importance of diet


    Quote Originally Posted by Kam
    As a new comer this is a great thread and does emphasis a good diet. I was just getting tired of making the same salad and dressing and got thick again, it's hard to have a healthy, tasty variety but you gotta work for what you want.

    And from personal experience what you eat does so much more for you then the workout, I think to myself as there are so many more disieses and cancers probably the result of synthetic or bio engineered foods, let alone increadibly unhealthy fast foods.

    With working out with roman and a beer(college ignorence) and having no energy before during and after workout. To Eating good and working out every other day, and feeling better with energy throughout the day. Most people are just to lazy/ignorent to think that it could fix most things that bother you. "D+E" diet and excercise the first thing your doctor says
    Very True it takes care of your physically challanges and also you think faster, remember better and many more benifits. feel better , self confidence - why wouldnt people want all if this
  

  
 

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