Sugar for carbs?
- 03-23-2013, 02:25 PM
Sugar for carbs?
I find it so difficult to consume 5,000 cals a day, and yes, that really is how much I need.
I'm already relying heavily on milk for calories, I've been thinking of adding some chocolate syrup for additional cals.
In principle this should work fine, as a calorie is basically a calorie, and even complex carbs all get broken down to simple sugar anyway.
I guess what I'm asking is if anyone has tried incorporating more sugar in thier diet, and how the results were.
- 03-23-2013, 04:10 PM
03-25-2013, 01:37 AM
A calorie is not a calorie is not a calorie.. they are all metabolically different fats should be preferred over carbs
03-25-2013, 10:12 AM
03-25-2013, 05:34 PM
Perhaps. Perhaps not. Of course he could do that but sugar is not the best option and the logic that it all 'turns' into sugar eventually is misguided. From a physique standpoint he might not notice anything different, but from a health standpoint there is a difference. And I will always gravitate toward longetivity and health as opposed to simply looking good.
03-26-2013, 06:07 AM
Certain foods effect the body differently from a hormonal standpoint.
Hersheys syrup is probably corn syrup. I require LOTS OF CARBS to maintain size, I find good ol' complex messy as hell waxy maize great for
having 150-250g carb drinks without any GI stress or bloat.
I have 800G CARBS/DAY currently and half from karboload and waxy and staying hard and full.
03-26-2013, 11:02 AM
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03-26-2013, 11:35 AM
03-26-2013, 11:36 AM
Get a weight gainer? Super mass by Optimum nutrition has a gainer called serious mass it'll have everything you need!
03-26-2013, 11:52 AM
In reality you right even sugar breaks down to glucose but it does so very quickly and it has little chance to be used as energy so it's stored as fat most times...unless you have a hyperthyroid issue which I would address it with meds rather than food or scale back your activity level so you dont require tons of food. Alternative to glucose for energy I'd consider fat.
If you want to ulitize sugar then mix it with something that will slow down it's absorption. In any case I wouldnt consider this a long term strategy.
03-26-2013, 04:22 PM
03-26-2013, 05:52 PM
Or he could have a very high metabolism and be an extreme hard gainer.
I would personally side with something else other than sugars, since they will make your insulin go all over the place. Nuts? Natty PB? Almond Oil? I find nuts to be the easiest since a handful of them is already a good 500calories and you can eat at will.
Androhard + Andromass Log
03-26-2013, 05:59 PM
03-26-2013, 06:01 PM
03-27-2013, 05:34 AM
03-28-2013, 09:04 PM
Using waxy maize like jigg said and whole foods like cummings said are both good.
Serious mass is not only expensive but it made me feel extremely bloated. Wouldnt get it again.
Someone on here told me to add syrup to my shakes to slow metabolism. Add that and waxy maize to a protien shake and that should help
Also when i eat clean i can eat a lot more.
04-03-2013, 06:47 PM
sugar is half fructose and half glucose. fructose can only replenish liver glycogen and is not a healthy carb. complex carbs get broken down into only glucose which replenishes both muscle and liver glycogen. so eat less sugar, more complex carbs.
04-03-2013, 06:59 PM
04-03-2013, 09:21 PM
04-04-2013, 08:08 AM
04-04-2013, 11:32 AM
Anyway, in adding the ice cream, my logic was that I am already eating complex carbs, lean meats, and random fruits and veggies so it should be ok to throw in the ice cream. It's the only source of processed food in my diet. I've been eating healthy for a long time, but I'm making weight gain a priority these days. So kinda feel guilty about it.
Why don't you throw up your diet and maybe we can give you some ideas. Also, I bought some Anabeta due to reviews claiming increased appetite. Will be trying it soon. Something you may want to look into.
04-04-2013, 03:51 PM
I've started adding Sienna Bakery Cookies too, from GFS. Delicious and 120 calories each cookie, adds up well into the calories since you can easily eat several of them. Use them in my carb backloading.
Androhard + Andromass Log
04-04-2013, 03:59 PM
I have the PERFECT thing for you if you can handle sugars okay.
get those frozen bags of Berry's /fruits from the store. Put it in a blender.
Add chocolate milk plus frozen strawberries( or your choice) plus banana chuncks. This will be a great 450 to 600 calorie smoothie to store in your icebox for in between meals. Add peanut butter and there is another 95 to 190 for 1-2 table spoons.calories. Add a couple egg whites (you don't really taste them) that's 25 to 35 more calories per egg. Plus add some maltodextrin and there's 100 to 300 more calories. Protien powder will add 100 to 150 more calories.Very good, not very filling and cheap as hell
High Carb content with a little protien. All "good" or atleast "better" sugars than chocolate syrup
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04-04-2013, 04:09 PM
The problem with simple carbs are they create a insulin spike which then stores fat. As you said you need 5000+ calories to gain weight I guess you don't store fat so should be fine. Buy grounded oats. I chuck in 4 scoops which works out to be 92g of low gi carbs. Mix it with whey and a table spoon of olive oil. That would be 52g of protein. 92g of carbs. 27g of fat. Total calories = 820 calories. If you want it too be even more calories instead of water mix it all with 500ml of semi skimmed milk
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