3 meals or multiple meals?
- 12-20-2012, 01:49 PM
"To be clear, the argument was whether or not the spike in metabolism food creates can be manipulated for weight loss or not."
And the study quoted, as discussed in its conclusion posted here, shows that yes, it can. I'm sure your diversion was unintentional but either way the angle you're on now wasn't even the discussion to begin with.
Not only that, protein synthesis and the regular intake of aminos to support it is the topic you are currently challenging, or were, I guess.
On that note, what is your dieting protocol? Because every bodybuilding diet I've ever seen has advocated a frequent and regular intake of aminos, however delivered, including IF diets geared to weight training.
- 12-20-2012, 02:56 PM
No it doesnt, and that will be as much time I will spend responding to that.Androhard + Andromass Log
- 12-20-2012, 03:25 PM
CONCLUSION: Irregular meal frequency led to a lower postprandial energy expenditure compared with the regular meal frequency, while the mean energy intake was not significantly different between the two. The reduced TEF with the irregular meal frequency may lead to weight gain in the long term.
It's been fun, with plenty of semantic twists and topic diversions, but yes, TEF can be manipulated for weight management as supported by research. I don't expect you to acknowledge it though, don't worry.
Can we discuss frequent amino intake and protein synthesis now or is Jiggs on his own for that one?
12-20-2012, 03:44 PM
Why do you insist on pounding that study over and over when all it touches upon is TEF, which is only a minor part of TDEE? As I pointed out to you in the other thread, the RMR was not significantly different amongst the groups and this study only points to IRREGULAR eating patterns and does not discuss the meal frequency topic as it pertains to consistent "diets."
M.Ed. Ex Phys
12-20-2012, 04:22 PM
How about you focus on this
And go off the research showing how long it takes insulin levels to fall. This way you can see how detrimental more then 3 meals a day can be
12-20-2012, 07:14 PM
Edit: I posted a study demonstrating exercise's effect on insulin sensitivity but forgot I can't link. I'm on a phone and copy paste is a pain but I can do so later if necessary.
As far as I know, there haven't been any studies directly related to bodybuilding activities and the issue you have raised, I've only seen them referencing a general population (I haven't looked hard). This would be a limitation as I'm willing to bet I exercise with significantly more intensity and eat much cleaner than the study participants, including anti-inflammatory, low glycemic foods. It's also my understanding that with the proper stimulus, various hormonal changes brought on by intense exercise create a nutrient repartioning effect, where insulin is my "friend" as opposed to an average joe sitting on the couch and maybe walking a couple miles per week, the likely candidate for such studies.
Diabetes doesn't really run in my family per se, but my mother, an active, regular gym goer nearing 60 who eats healthy is exhibiting pre-diabetic symptoms though, so I do keep an eye on my own blood work, and would appreciate any further insight on this particular vein of discussion.
12-20-2012, 07:45 PM
What you need to understand is how it relates to body fat directlyOriginally Posted by TexasGuy
Insulin can be a friend or foe for anyone especially reaching 15% or higher in men which is why you constantly see people bulking and adding more fat ten usual but when on test or other hormones they Recomp. Strictly due to leptin and insulin
12-20-2012, 07:49 PM
This is also why I advocate a Gda on a bulk like recompadrol
12-20-2012, 08:08 PM
Last time I checked 3 meals was considered multiple meals... Idk, but that title throws me off...
12-21-2012, 12:47 AM
i go 3 meals a day with power snacks or drinks in between..
gotta do 1 more.. and then 1 more..
12-21-2012, 07:48 AM
Based on that study there is no evidence that the number of meals a day will have any direct effect on weight management, rather up or down, the main part is to keep consistent, i.e. if you eat 3 times a day or 6 times a day, try to do it at the same time frame day in and day out, and don't fluctuate between 1 meal one day, 9 meals the next, 5 meals the one after.
Androhard + Andromass Log
05-12-2013, 08:15 PM
05-12-2013, 09:33 PM
I opt for 5-6 meals a day only because my caloric intake is so high that if I ate that much in 3 sittings I'd feel bloated and sluggish all day
05-12-2013, 09:46 PM
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