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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Frank Reynolds View Post
    I am speaking my opinion, and that is I would not do what you have outlined, personally. I am glad it has served YOU well, but we are not talking about YOU. We are talking about someone who is likely in a different situation than you. We also know very little about the OP, other than the little blurb up top. I don't like making generic recommendations like you have above, with next to NO information.

    Coming off calorie restriction, and low BF you are primed for adding LBM but at the same time primed to store fat if approached incorrectly, and it is my opinion from EXPERIENCE(both myself, and the many people I work with), making such a jump is not wise. On top of that, making such a drastic change to a diet he feels is working well, doesn't make sense.

    To clarify, I have no problem with an abundance of fat, I just don't think approaching it like you have laid out is wise, with the information provided.
    With all due respect, what's wise is to keep opinions to yourself if you just talk without bases.
    I offered an alternate plan to make lean gains. This plan is very similar to what Arnold, Robby Robinson and others around that era used to eat. This approach is researched and just about all early bodybuilders applied this diet very contrary to high carb diets of today's bodybuilders.
    If you want to stay lean most all bodybuilders agree that carbs need to be limited, or one end up doing either lots of drugs and/or cardio and still that doesnt guarantee staying lean.
    I think Arnold has accomplished a lot and set the bar for later bodybuilders so I really doubt he didnt know what he was doing.

    This diet maybe drastic to you but if you care to research the diet of the 70s bodybuilders you would find that they did mon-sat was a low carb/high fat/protein and sunday was junk day. Junk day was all you can eat and whetever you want to eat day.
    Im not trying to be nasty but offer backing to what I said.
    If you want to have a conv about this back your stuff up dont get all bent out of shape without really explaining why
    So shoot, why you think my approach is in your opinion not good?


  2. Wow dude you are dense lol. No use even trying to explain further when I broke it down very clearly why I wouldn't follow your advice for HIS current situation.

    I am sorry if you can't extract my point from that(you have clearly missed it), but it's pretty cut and dry. I am not going to keep repeating myself.

    You keep saying "without bases" so I'm going to have to assume English isn't your first language.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by vassille

    With all due respect, what's wise is to keep opinions to yourself if you just talk without bases.
    I offered an alternate plan to make lean gains. This plan is very similar to what Arnold, Robby Robinson and others around that era used to eat. This approach is researched and just about all early bodybuilders applied this diet very contrary to high carb diets of today's bodybuilders.
    If you want to stay lean most all bodybuilders agree that carbs need to be limited, or one end up doing either lots of drugs and/or cardio and still that doesnt guarantee staying lean.
    I think Arnold has accomplished a lot and set the bar for later bodybuilders so I really doubt he didnt know what he was doing.

    This diet maybe drastic to you but if you care to research the diet of the 70s bodybuilders you would find that they did mon-sat was a low carb/high fat/protein and sunday was junk day. Junk day was all you can eat and whetever you want to eat day.
    Im not trying to be nasty but offer backing to what I said.
    If you want to have a conv about this back your stuff up dont get all bent out of shape without really explaining why
    So shoot, why you think my approach is in your opinion not good?
    Sorry to burst ur bubble here guy but carbs dont make you fat, i eat 329 carbs each day i lift which is 4 days a week with 200 of those carbs falling at 9 PM and i have went from 15% bodyfat to 6-8ish% bodyfat while eating this way. Im not saying your theory is no good but before you bash frank who is just trying to help maybe you should research todays lifestyles and diets and quit thinking only about what was done in the70's, its the twentyfirst century we have evolved welcome to 2012. Now frank as you were saying?

  4. Quote Originally Posted by live to lift

    Sorry to burst ur bubble here guy but carbs dont make you fat, i eat 329 carbs each day i lift which is 4 days a week with 200 of those carbs falling at 9 PM and i have went from 15% bodyfat to 6-8ish% bodyfat while eating this way. Im not saying your theory is no good but before you bash frank who is just trying to help maybe you should research todays lifestyles and diets and quit thinking only about what was done in the70's, its the twentyfirst century we have evolved welcome to 2012. Now frank as you were saying?
    So you've kind of been backloading. Sorry, I didn't read the entire thread.

    Being on test you can def manipulate calories different than off
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by live to lift View Post
    Sorry to burst ur bubble here guy but carbs dont make you fat, i eat 329 carbs each day i lift which is 4 days a week with 200 of those carbs falling at 9 PM and i have went from 15% bodyfat to 6-8ish% bodyfat while eating this way. Im not saying your theory is no good but before you bash frank who is just trying to help maybe you should research todays lifestyles and diets and quit thinking only about what was done in the70's, its the twentyfirst century we have evolved welcome to 2012. Now frank as you were saying?
    Haha then in the future dont bump a thread for more advice or thoughts bud if you not open to it! Just saying
    At 165lbs I wouldnt be making too much of it and if it's working for you why are you asking for advice anyway!
    Good luck with your cycle

  6. Quote Originally Posted by Frank Reynolds View Post
    Wow dude you are dense lol. No use even trying to explain further when I broke it down very clearly why I wouldn't follow your advice for HIS current situation.

    I am sorry if you can't extract my point from that(you have clearly missed it), but it's pretty cut and dry. I am not going to keep repeating myself.

    You keep saying "without bases" so I'm going to have to assume English isn't your first language.
    Stop being so full of yourself..LMAO

  7. Quote Originally Posted by vassille

    Stop being so full of yourself..LMAO
    Irony. Do you know what that is?

    If not, read your posts in this thread, then that last reply. That's irony.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by vassille

    Haha then in the future dont bump a thread for more advice or thoughts bud if you not open to it! Just saying
    At 165lbs I wouldnt be making too much of it and if it's working for you why are you asking for advice anyway!
    Good luck with your cycle
    I appreciated your advice but you start flaming people for what they post to help as well and thats just not what the community is about i am open to thoughts and ideas and you apparently only see things ur way this thread was meant to be informative not just your way or no way so if you want to give advice i appriciate it but dont get mad when others dont feel that your way is most effective and give their oppinions to try and help

  9. going off your first post it sounds like you've got everything in check especially the part where you drop leangains in favor of the more traditional bodybuilder diet, granted I'm no expert but bulking doesn't have to be complicated and micromanaged as long you're eating fairly clean and have a reasonable caloric surplus your muscles will grow and you won't get fat no need to over complicate something thats supposed to be fun.
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