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- 11-02-2012, 08:19 AM
I offered an alternate plan to make lean gains. This plan is very similar to what Arnold, Robby Robinson and others around that era used to eat. This approach is researched and just about all early bodybuilders applied this diet very contrary to high carb diets of today's bodybuilders.
If you want to stay lean most all bodybuilders agree that carbs need to be limited, or one end up doing either lots of drugs and/or cardio and still that doesnt guarantee staying lean.
I think Arnold has accomplished a lot and set the bar for later bodybuilders so I really doubt he didnt know what he was doing.
This diet maybe drastic to you but if you care to research the diet of the 70s bodybuilders you would find that they did mon-sat was a low carb/high fat/protein and sunday was junk day. Junk day was all you can eat and whetever you want to eat day.
Im not trying to be nasty but offer backing to what I said.
If you want to have a conv about this back your stuff up dont get all bent out of shape without really explaining why
So shoot, why you think my approach is in your opinion not good?
- 11-02-2012, 09:24 AM
Wow dude you are dense lol. No use even trying to explain further when I broke it down very clearly why I wouldn't follow your advice for HIS current situation.
I am sorry if you can't extract my point from that(you have clearly missed it), but it's pretty cut and dry. I am not going to keep repeating myself.
You keep saying "without bases" so I'm going to have to assume English isn't your first language.
11-02-2012, 09:36 AM
11-02-2012, 09:42 AM
Sorry to burst ur bubble here guy but carbs dont make you fat, i eat 329 carbs each day i lift which is 4 days a week with 200 of those carbs falling at 9 PM and i have went from 15% bodyfat to 6-8ish% bodyfat while eating this way. Im not saying your theory is no good but before you bash frank who is just trying to help maybe you should research todays lifestyles and diets and quit thinking only about what was done in the70's, its the twentyfirst century we have evolved welcome to 2012. Now frank as you were saying?Originally Posted by vassille
11-02-2012, 10:32 AM
So you've kind of been backloading. Sorry, I didn't read the entire thread.Originally Posted by live to lift
Being on test you can def manipulate calories different than off
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11-02-2012, 11:03 AM
11-02-2012, 11:04 AM
11-02-2012, 11:40 AM
Irony. Do you know what that is?Originally Posted by vassille
If not, read your posts in this thread, then that last reply. That's irony.
11-02-2012, 02:10 PM
I appreciated your advice but you start flaming people for what they post to help as well and thats just not what the community is about i am open to thoughts and ideas and you apparently only see things ur way this thread was meant to be informative not just your way or no way so if you want to give advice i appriciate it but dont get mad when others dont feel that your way is most effective and give their oppinions to try and helpOriginally Posted by vassille
11-05-2012, 05:26 PM
going off your first post it sounds like you've got everything in check especially the part where you drop leangains in favor of the more traditional bodybuilder diet, granted I'm no expert but bulking doesn't have to be complicated and micromanaged as long you're eating fairly clean and have a reasonable caloric surplus your muscles will grow and you won't get fat no need to over complicate something thats supposed to be fun.
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