- 10-17-2012, 07:36 PM
Hey guys so I've been battling chronic fatigue the past few months. Symptoms include: Fatigue obviously, brain fog, lack of motivation, no libido, etc... Up until now I've been attributing it to adrenal fatigue, which I've come to realize doesn't really exist..I'm not completely convinced of this yet but several people in fitness circles claim this..
Anyways, I've been carb/calorie cycling for my winter lean bulk. Currently I'm 5'10 165. I was thinking perhaps by me limiting carbs to <50 grams on off days, that it could be the cause.. Anyway I'm trying to accomplish 2 things here. 1, a diet strategy that maximizes muscle accumulation while minimizes fat accumulation, aka: a recomp..And 2: a method that will eliminate these symptoms
Katch McArdle has my cals at ~2900. So on lifting days I do 280-300g Protein, 250-300g Carbs, and remaining in fats.. Off days I cut from carbs down to 30-50..Off day cals are around 1900..
Tryin to decide if this zig-zag method is better than a modest daily surplus..Both for gains and for the chronic fatigue I have..I don't think it's a keto thing as it's not enough time w/ low carbs to get to ketosis.
- 10-17-2012, 10:13 PM
When you limit your carbs your body uses protein for energy which gets extracted from your vital organs. Your body has to work a lot harder to function.
- 10-17-2012, 10:16 PM
10-18-2012, 09:53 AM
I was talking about protein sparing but when you don't eat enough carbs your metabolism of fats is inefficient which leads to ketosis. This screws up your acid base balance and makes you dehydrated
10-18-2012, 11:43 AM
10-18-2012, 09:31 PM
I would go with 150. Anything lower than 130 will initiate keto. If you are trying to get lean for the winter while increasing muscle I would consume carbs as fruits vegetables and whole grains and stay away from refined stuff. If you are not consuming enough of these it might attribute to your fatigue.
10-18-2012, 09:46 PM
How often do you switch up your routine?
10-18-2012, 09:48 PM
10-18-2012, 10:05 PM
10-19-2012, 10:09 AM
I don't believe Adrenal Fatigue Syndrome is a myth, in fact Mountain Dog has sev articles published on the subject on another forum. I'm 99% sure I had it for sev months until I finally took a break from stims, got plenty of sleep and took Revamp by Southlandthen I was back to my old self and am feeling better than ever in about a month.
How much sleep are you getting each night??
10-19-2012, 11:33 AM
Edit: In fact the Rhodiola Extract was standardized to 15% rosavins, which is much greater than anything else you'll find online for the most part.
10-19-2012, 05:14 PM
10-19-2012, 05:53 PM
Stop carb cycling for awhile and see how you feel? Or did I miss something?
10-19-2012, 06:02 PM
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10-19-2012, 11:00 PM
10-20-2012, 07:10 AM
10-20-2012, 08:54 AM
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As mcc said gluconeogenesis is the production of glucose from any non carbohydrate source. Glycogenesis is the production of glycogenOriginally Posted by David Dunn
10-20-2012, 09:15 AM
Correct. Gluco...not glyco
10-20-2012, 09:24 AM
10-20-2012, 11:37 AM
I will read up on the links u posted.....
10-20-2012, 11:44 AM
10-20-2012, 11:46 AM
10-20-2012, 12:48 PM
Unfortunately, Congress has not given the Food and Drug Administration authority to regulate nutritional supplements such as those marketed for adrenal fatigue."
I truly and sincerely hope Congress never gives the FDA this type of power; I believe they have sufficient power now and do whatever they can do to help Big Pharma.
10-20-2012, 12:53 PM
Caffeine abuse - http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1182710-overview
Anyway. Ive made my point already. Good luck guys.
10-22-2012, 11:39 AM
10-26-2012, 10:59 PM
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10-30-2012, 09:59 PM
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