[AaronJP1]

I'd like to hear some feedback on what folks think of soy protein & some of the negativity we hear about it. Some sites tote positive attributes, other negatives.
What do you guys think about soy?

[Kingjake]

Ima bump this..
I eat those Joseph's low carb tortillas n they have soy in em.

[Medical420]

If you like estrogen or mimicking it. Don't forget man boobies and less soldiers.


I won't post links since they are so readily available, but I side with the Neh say'ers.

I will change my opinion when they PROVE otherwise. (long term study).

[Gokmog]

There's also supposed to be a difference between traditionally fermented soy products and the "purer" stuff (think soy oil, textured vegetable protein from soy, soy flour, soy oil, etc.). It was given a real fermentation to alter it, as a food substance, from the traditional peeps that originally cultivated and used the stuff...

[Gokmog]

Also found this at a site found from another thread, read to the end to see some conjecture on soy foods:

http://www.ergo-log.com/plant-based-...vels-soar.html

[alexy89]

I'd like to hear some feedback on what folks think of soy protein & some of the negativity we hear about it. Some sites tote positive attributes, other negatives.
What do you guys think about soy?

I personally think 'whole' soy products are great, aslong as the soy is GMO free and the products use whole soy beans. Phytoestrogens isoflavones in soy are potent and work by binding to estrogen receptor sites although they have a much milder effect than our own bodies estrogen. I believe all the hype about soy giving you gyno is a bunch off bull****, good quality whole soy products will only benift you and your body.

[Gokmog]

I've read (yes, again, but this I believe was from New Scientist) that too much estrogen can make people moody and irritable. I believe there is a reason why it was always fermented in some way, originally. Think about how powerful testosterone is in the female body, now think about how powerful estrogens are in the male body. Certainly it's menfolk who are going to suffer the worst of the unfermented soy products. Please remember that certain forms of breast cancer actually aren't negatively effected by soy phytoestrogens, it's not a simple issue at all.

I've worked in a health food store or two. Some men with very strange body fat deposits* who ate a lot of soy products, and never meat. And they were very pissy (of course, maybe it was because of their strange fat deposits, cause-and-effect and all that...). I can't say which happened first, the weird looking body or the emphasis on soy products and abstention (at least from what I saw) from animal products.

*a gut that bulged from a really low place, almost like pregnant, and of course some extra sexy boobness.

In the end I'd say if you're feeling anhedonia, less confidence, moodiness and especially irritability and you're on a lot of soy it's time to cut it out. And soybean oil, refined, unrefined, organic or the delightful Monsanto Roundup variety... no way. Limited quantities only.

[JoeySon]

bump. interested in more discussion

[mumbles12]

I think fortified soy is more of an issue than quality soy beans tbh..

[Building12]

Can you build muscle with soy protein?

[JudoJosh]

If you like estrogen or mimicking it. Don't forget man boobies and less soldiers.


I won't post links since they are so readily available, but I side with the Neh say'ers.

I will change my opinion when they PROVE otherwise. (long term study).

That's more brolore more than science founded

[JudoJosh]

Furthermore there is no evidence of non GMO Soy > GMO soy. That is just internet propaganda