Cant seem to eat enough to gain?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by smatters View Post
    That's about it. Some grumbling in the stomach. I am starting to believe it is a lactose issue. I ate a protein bar, of course, casein and whey, and soon after started to hear my stomach grumble and started to feel like crap. I'm really bummed out about this and I even went to the store to buy some Lactase enzymes. Not trying anything dairy for a few days however.
    Sounds like lactose problem. avoid casein stick with whey protein isolate.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by vassille

    Sounds like lactose problem. avoid casein stick with whey protein isolate.
    Lactose is the sugar from milk so how does avoiding casein protein help someone who is lactose intolerant?
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    Lactose is the sugar from milk so how does avoiding casein protein help someone who is lactose intolerant?
    Casein is also a highly allergenic part of milk.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by SweetLou321 View Post
    Casein is also a highly allergenic part of milk.
    But that would be entirely separate from lactose intolerance wouldn't it?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    Lactose is the sugar from milk so how does avoiding casein protein help someone who is lactose intolerant?
    Casein has the lactose part that's what you are allergic to. THat;s basically the same as drinking milk.
    Whey isolate has that part removed.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by vassille

    Casein has the lactose part that's what you are allergic to. THat;s basically the same as drinking milk.
    Whey isolate has that part removed.
    So how does ON micellar casein have 24g protein and 3g carbs just like the way? Casein protein is protein, lactose is sugar so I don't see how protein contains sugar....I'm gonna have to see some kind of backing to that.

    Cows milk has more casein than whey content, I believe it's split 80/20 or something like that bit casein and lactose are not one and the same. A casein protein is just that, casein, not lactose. At least that's my understanding.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by vassille

    Sounds like lactose problem. avoid casein stick with whey protein isolate.
    Yeah, I agree. Although, they recommended Muscle Milk brand because it is lactose free, however, my understanding is that casein does contain lactose in it. Anyhow, I also leavened that my blood type is O. If you haven't heard of that book, Eat Right For Your Blood Type, I suggest you check it out. Type O's don't do dairy well at all according to the book. Neither beans. It's an interesting concept. The reason for staying away from beans for type O is because the lectin in the beans causes the hairs that absorb nutrients in the intestines to stop absorbing, so basically it's like eating without truly benefiting to its full potential. And I was downing more beans than should be legal.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick

    Lactose is the sugar from milk so how does avoiding casein protein help someone who is lactose intolerant?
    It's true, casein does contain lactose from what I've read. I think that because I am lactose intolerant and the fact that I was drinking four protein shakes with milk, not water, that my body just decided to kick me in the balls. There's nothing like the feeling of wanting to throw up for several hours.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by smatters View Post
    Yeah, I agree. Although, they recommended Muscle Milk brand because it is lactose free, however, my understanding is that casein does contain lactose in it. Anyhow, I also leavened that my blood type is O. If you haven't heard of that book, Eat Right For Your Blood Type, I suggest you check it out. Type O's don't do dairy well at all according to the book. Neither beans. It's an interesting concept. The reason for staying away from beans for type O is because the lectin in the beans causes the hairs that absorb nutrients in the intestines to stop absorbing, so basically it's like eating without truly benefiting to its full potential. And I was downing more beans than should be legal.
    THanks for the suggestion i'll look into it. Beans do bother me but milk is much worse

  10. Quote Originally Posted by vassille

    THanks for the suggestion i'll look into it. Beans do bother me but milk is much worse
    For my sugar and dairy problems I use Almond Breeze and Diesel Protein (stevia ftw). No reaction from either.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    So how does ON micellar casein have 24g protein and 3g carbs just like the way? Casein protein is protein, lactose is sugar so I don't see how protein contains sugar....I'm gonna have to see some kind of backing to that.

    Cows milk has more casein than whey content, I believe it's split 80/20 or something like that bit casein and lactose are not one and the same. A casein protein is just that, casein, not lactose. At least that's my understanding.
    You are correct lactose is a type of sugar found in milk. What Im saying is that many companies do not purify their powder to remove all the sugar. Most casein and some whey for that matter has lactose , I guess is cheaper to not go the extra process of purification. I see protein powders for 20 bucks and others for 50. To me that means the price difference is prob due to additional purification steps. So, unless the label on the bottle say no sugar it has lactose. The protein powder such as whey protein isolate has that extra step to remove all sugars.
    One brand I found to be lactose free is VPX zero carbs. It specifically says no sugar no lactose. I never have a problem digesting it even at higher dosages. Im not trying to plug VPX but it works for my specific need.

    Not that I looked that hard but I have not seen a casein protein lactose free yet at least when I tried them a while ago. Maybe now days companies have it???... and if there is one I stand corrected.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Medical420 View Post
    For my sugar and dairy problems I use Almond Breeze and Diesel Protein (stevia ftw). No reaction from either.

    yeap almond drink works
    I drink the coconut milk works really good too.
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