Six meals every three hours a scam?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by 0071982WC View Post
    Mind=blown.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by Flames8936

    Not true. Your body will be on a higher rate of Burning Fat and Gaining Muscle if you eat 6 proportioned sized meals a day. Go ask any REAL bodybuilder and they will tell you that your eating habbits is EVERYTHING!!!! and that eating 6-8 times a day is the right way to keep your body fueled. everything is done with the amount of insulin your body puts out. go ask ANY NUTRITIONER and they will back this up. So the real quote is YOU need to do a little more research before you put down peoples diets and say we are brain washed because this has been being done for years by ALL major body builders and ATHLETES
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by broda
    You're really just speaking of heresay with no actual kind of research to speak of. There's absolutely no research saying that increased meal frequency increases your metabolism or keeps your body in an anabolic or anti-catabolic state over other methods.

    Explain this to me, oh almighty one. How is your body burning fat more efficiently when the only time your body isn't busy digesting food is when you sleep compared to if you're not eating and your energy source is coming from stored energy (AKA FAT) that your body already has?
    Ha this great one obviously has no understanding of how the body produces something I like to call hgh. Or the difference between the roided pros and natural bodybuilders. Reps to u though.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Flames8936

    Not true. Your body will be on a higher rate of Burning Fat and Gaining Muscle if you eat 6 proportioned sized meals a day. Go ask any REAL bodybuilder and they will tell you that your eating habbits is EVERYTHING!!!! and that eating 6-8 times a day is the right way to keep your body fueled. everything is done with the amount of insulin your body puts out. go ask ANY NUTRITIONER and they will back this up. So the real quote is YOU need to do a little more research before you put down peoples diets and say we are brain washed because this has been being done for years by ALL major body builders and ATHLETES
    I love when newbs come to this site thinking there the shiza thinking they own the place. Go back to bodybuilding.com with the rest the ignorant dbags..

  5. Well...you're *kind of* a noob to me. ^^

    jus fukkinwitcha!
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Flames8936 View Post
    Not true. Your body will be on a higher rate of Burning Fat and Gaining Muscle if you eat 6 proportioned sized meals a day. Go ask any REAL bodybuilder and they will tell you that your eating habbits is EVERYTHING!!!! and that eating 6-8 times a day is the right way to keep your body fueled. everything is done with the amount of insulin your body puts out. go ask ANY NUTRITIONER and they will back this up. So the real quote is YOU need to do a little more research before you put down peoples diets and say we are brain washed because this has been being done for years by ALL major body builders and ATHLETES
    hmmm i wonder why diets like leangains, warrior, tkd, ckd and a plethora of others have such great results.....
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    hmmm i wonder why diets like leangains, warrior, tkd, ckd and a plethora of others have such great results.....
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by broda View Post
    We sold our souls to the devil!! That's why! It allows us to make unparalleled gainzzz
    well i guess i'll see you in HELL
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by Swanson52
    Well...you're *kind of* a noob to me. ^^

    jus fukkinwitcha!
    To u I am man. Dang u been here like since dial up ha.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    I went to school for nutrition. There's no clear science on meal timing and frequency.

    In fact there's more out there on hormone timing which you should base your meals around

    As far as intra workout it depends on goals there is evidence there. But non really on frequency of meals v 1-3 meals a day

    I've been on a nice easy recomp eating 1x a day. Gained 4 lbs and dropped a little on my waist and have gotten stronger. I don't think it's fair to say frequency of eating correlates to muscle accretion.
    I think my point was misinterpreted. Meal frequency is not important at all, as long as macros are hit. But there are still studies out there on eating every 3 hours, however this is mostly for obese individuals;

    http://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJM198910053211403
    http://www.ajcn.org/content/23/8/1059.short
    http://journals.cambridge.org/action...ine&aid=879792
    http://www.ajcn.org/content/81/1/16.short (shows that it is only important for obese individuals)

    These studies are very outdated, but this is why people think that meal frequency is important, because they base their ideals off old, outdated studies. Thats not to say they dont exist (which is why I said they did), they just arnt relevant.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by hugry4more View Post
    To u I am man. Dang u been here like since dial up ha.
    9 years, and still don't know sh1t!
    Don't worry, man, someday I'ma be nobody too.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz

    I think my point was misinterpreted. Meal frequency is not important at all, as long as macros are hit. But there are still studies out there on eating every 3 hours, however this is mostly for obese individuals;

    http://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJM198910053211403
    http://www.ajcn.org/content/23/8/1059.short
    http://journals.cambridge.org/action...ine&aid=879792
    http://www.ajcn.org/content/81/1/16.short (shows that it is only important for obese individuals)

    These studies are very outdated, but this is why people think that meal frequency is important, because they base their ideals off old, outdated studies. Thats not to say they dont exist (which is why I said they did), they just arnt relevant.
    I'll get back to this with hormone timing . Debunk some ****

  14. As a personal note, I get hungry very easily, when i eat dirty im full and throws my macros off for the rest of the day.But when i eat clean im always hungry, when bulking I eat small meals spread out through the day and get exactly what i need in me, but when im on a cut its hard for me not to get hungry, so i try and spread the meals out about 3 hrs apart so ill take in less cals without sacrifice of actually eatting smaller meals, if that makes sense.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by John Smeton View Post
    you need to eat every 2-3 hours to keep muscle building going or supplement bcaa's or a whey shake in between meals

    amino acids levels fall after uyou eat and you have got to keep it going
    LMAO!

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Legacykid View Post
    As a personal note, I get hungry very easily, when i eat dirty im full and throws my macros off for the rest of the day.But when i eat clean im always hungry, when bulking I eat small meals spread out through the day and get exactly what i need in me, but when im on a cut its hard for me not to get hungry, so i try and spread the meals out about 3 hrs apart so ill take in less cals without sacrifice of actually eatting smaller meals, if that makes sense.
    The only reason why you get that hungry is because your body is scheduled to eat that often. While I'm doing intermittent fasting I don't even get remotely hungry until my feeding window.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by broda View Post
    The only reason why you get that hungry is because your body is scheduled to eat that often. While I'm doing intermittent fasting I don't even get remotely hungry until my feeding window.
    So then let me ask i train multi times a day, and eatting a light meal instead of a larger meal i am able to workout just about right after and not get sluggish or an upset stomic, is that also because my body is used to it, or infact b/c i ate a smaller meal? This is also another reason why i like eatting smaller meals, more often.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Legacykid View Post
    So then let me ask i train multi times a day, and eatting a light meal instead of a larger meal i am able to workout just about right after and not get sluggish or an upset stomic, is that also because my body is used to it, or infact b/c i ate a smaller meal? This is also another reason why i like eatting smaller meals, more often.
    I actually train fasted so I don't eat anything beforehand. I actually feel better fasted than if I ate an hour prior or so. I think it's because when you eat it slowly digests and your body is putting in energy to digest and give your body the nutrition from the food you ate versus just using energy that your body already has stored. Also, I've read/heard that your body produces more HGH in a fasted state so that's another benefit of training fasted.

    If you train multiple times a day you could train fasted the first time, then eat post workout. What you'd do really depends on how spaced out your sessions are.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by broda View Post
    The only reason why you get that hungry is because your body is scheduled to eat that often. While I'm doing intermittent fasting I don't even get remotely hungry until my feeding window.

    Same here, except lately I have been stepping up my workouts, and my body has been saying "FEED ME MORE" if I don't give it enough in the first 7 of the 8 hours, so then I am stuffing food in.



    As far as "kick starting your metabolism" or however you want to phrase it, there are many ways to do that other than feed yourself, expecially when your feeding yourself calories you don't need. Your body won't burn any fat if you keep giving it calories, AKA the proportion of calories that goes to building muscle vs. feeding your body otherwise will be different. With IF your body uses stored energy/fat to run. If you eat constantly, your body is always going to use those calories before the store fat because its easier. And more than likely your meals are so small, that your not giving your body enough protein and good carbs/fats in those small meals to do the work it needs to do, specifically after your workout, and before bed.

    Now you can make the argument that macros are macros and it doesn't matter when you eat them, therefore with the same macros with different timing your body would be forced to burn the same amount of fat, or even more with the spaced out meals, because of "upping your metabolism", but its not that clear cut. Thats old science, as has been stated. What is more likely is that your body more effectively burns fat in a diet like lean gains, where you excercise fasted and feed immediately post workout. Then feed, which puts nearly all of the food intake to work, adding none to little fat, assuming proper diet that is.

    Constant feeding actually causes your body to store more fat, because your mind tells your body that you have plenty of food, and that it doesn't need to use what fat is stored in the body.

    This can get infinitely complicated and debated. But the facts are that IF works, and small meals CAN work, especially in a bulk (IMO).

    Drink alot of water, eat clean and at or slighly above your maint. macros, workout to hard, to failure, with volume, and sleep. basic recipe for success.

    After that it's all 99% Bullsheet.

    Quote Originally Posted by broda View Post
    I actually train fasted so I don't eat anything beforehand. I actually feel better fasted than if I ate an hour prior or so. I think it's because when you eat it slowly digests and your body is putting in energy to digest and give your body the nutrition from the food you ate versus just using energy that your body already has stored. Also, I've read/heard that your body produces more HGH in a fasted state so that's another benefit of training fasted.

    If you train multiple times a day you could train fasted the first time, then eat post workout. What you'd do really depends on how spaced out your sessions are.

    Body produces HGH in response to stress/fasting.

    There was also a recent study that a slowly drank protein shake PRE workout actually was beneficial, but that was for muscle growth, not fat loss, but I don't see a pure protein shake hurting. I am going to play around with it a little bit and break my IF rules a little with the shake 1 hr before workout.

    And yes it feels great, I do get fatigued in longer workouts at times though, BCAAs would help a lot I'm sure.
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    I'll get back to this with hormone timing . Debunk some ****
    Come at me bro haha jokes.

    I didnt say I agreed with the studies though, I just knew I had read some on meal frequency. But these are VERY outdated, new studies show us that growth and repair can happen irregardless of how often you feed; 3500kcals in one meal is the same as 3500kcals in 10 meals, just more spread out

  21. Quote Originally Posted by CountryLiftin View Post

    Constant feeding actually causes your body to store more fat, because your mind tells your body that you have plenty of food, and that it doesn't need to use what fat is stored in the body.

    This can get infinitely complicated and debated. But the facts are that IF works, and small meals CAN work, especially in a bulk (IMO).
    In the past two months I gained 13 lbs and only went up 1.5% bf and i do little to zero cardio

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Legacykid View Post
    In the past two months I gained 13 lbs and only went up 1.5% bf and i do little to zero cardio

    What does doing cardio have to do with this conversation?. I'm just confused at your response is all.

  23. Sometimes I eat peanut butter cookies.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Legacykid View Post
    In the past two months I gained 13 lbs and only went up 1.5% bf and i do little to zero cardio
    And how was the BF% measured? Calipers?
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Sometimes I eat peanut butter cookies.
    LOL, ROFL.

  26. Everything WORKS until it DOESN'T

  27. I hate to say it but so has every other fad diet for the past 30 years

    That said, I am with ya but it certainly seems like crap changes non stop and gets written in stone with studies to support it, then debunked, then becomes gospel again years later

    It's ALL gartbage IMO

    For me?

    5-6 small meals a day of lean meat, healthy fats and tons of greens.....and avoid processed crap and "cheat" when I feel like it.

    After awhile, you just have to figure out what works for you

    I actually put on FAT on the IM Diet and felt like CRAP

    I get RIPPED on 6 SMALL meals per day

    So, just more proof every oner needs to figure out what works for them

    The older I get, the less I listen. LOL. Everyone's full of poop and the ONLY fact anyone can prove is that no one diet will work for every person.

    Carbs are in, carbs are out, fat is in fat is out, saturated fat is good then bad, PWO windows, PWO carbs, grains are healthy, grains are the devil, gluten is the devil, gluten is fine, glycemic index matters, glycemic index is crap, egg yollks are satan, egg yolks are healthy, Atkins, Pritikin, IM fasting is the way to go, No eatign 10x/day is and dont forget that miracle dose of protein and cottage chz mix before bed time, caesein verses whey, milk makes you fat, but milk makes you get lean, sodioum is bad, sodium is dabomb diggity, CLA is da bomb, CLA stinks, hydolyzed whey is superior, whey concentrate is just fine, soy is GOD today then the devil tomorow.... all complete utterly annoying propaganda and BS IMO

    Rant over


    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    hmmm i wonder why diets like leangains, warrior, tkd, ckd and a plethora of others have such great results.....
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  28. ^^^ so how I feel man. Hit it right on the head. Reps to your great post!!

  29. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    I hate to say it but so has every other fad diet for the past 30 years

    That said, I am with ya but it certainly seems like crap changes non stop and gets written in stone with studies to support it, then debunked, then becomes gospel again years later

    It's ALL gartbage IMO

    For me?

    5-6 small meals a day of lean meat, healthy fats and tons of greens.....and avoid processed crap and "cheat" when I feel like it.

    After awhile, you just have to figure out what works for you

    I actually put on FAT on the IM Diet and felt like CRAP

    I get RIPPED on 6 SMALL meals per day

    So, just more proof every oner needs to figure out what works for them

    The older I get, the less I listen. LOL. Everyone's full of poop and the ONLY fact anyone can prove is that no one diet will work for every person.

    Carbs are in, carbs are out, fat is in fat is out, saturated fat is good then bad, PWO windows, PWO carbs, grains are healthy, grains are the devil, gluten is the devil, gluten is fine, glycemic index matters, glycemic index is crap, egg yollks are satan, egg yolks are healthy, Atkins, Pritikin, IM fasting is the way to go, No eatign 10x/day is and dont forget that miracle dose of protein and cottage chz mix before bed time, caesein verses whey, milk makes you fat, but milk makes you get lean, sodioum is bad, sodium is dabomb diggity, CLA is da bomb, CLA stinks, hydolyzed whey is superior, whey concentrate is just fine, soy is GOD today then the devil tomorow.... all complete utterly annoying propaganda and BS IMO

    Rant over
    Well said. Needs to be stickies.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    What does doing cardio have to do with this conversation?. I'm just confused at your response is all.

    Its was stated that constant eating (as i assumed he ment 5-6 small meals) you put more fat on, and i said how i only went up a little bf% and so no one could then say hey u could have done cardio to help keep bf down, i simply said i barely did any.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    And how was the BF% measured? Calipers?
    caliper and a machine at my gym, not 100% accurate i understand but used it as a guildline (checked multi times)
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