About to Attempt to Nail Down First CKD
- 07-12-2012, 01:53 PM
- 07-13-2012, 06:52 PM
50 on non-workout days, and 100 on workout.
Normally I eat 25-50g for breakfast, 50-75 before workout(1-2 hours). That's about it
200 is too high IMO. If you eat enough fat there is not need to be that high 125 will be plenty.
Give yourself about 2 weeks to get used to that and then it will be fine.
If you cant handle 125then bump it to 150 tops .
07-13-2012, 10:03 PM
07-15-2012, 05:35 PM
07-15-2012, 11:24 PM
I've done both diets..low fat/high carbs and high fat/low carbs
High fat/low carbs is far more superior in terms of muscle hardness, strength, and being lean!
With carbs you work your ass off and nothing to show for unless you do a boat load of cardio and maybe drugs too...and by the time you get lean you weak and looking like you hardly worked out!
07-15-2012, 11:35 PM
07-16-2012, 12:36 AM
IIRC, GH peaks at exercise and sleep. Insulin is anabolic if you know how to keep it in check. Referring back to my previous post of my macros, I don't go that big unless I'm cycling, and that's 1 day out of 7. My average is 75-150 depending on the day. People seem to think carbs are the enemy and make you fat if you go over a certain percentage or what not. That's not the case, it's the type of carbs and the scheduling of when you eat them.Originally Posted by vassille
07-16-2012, 11:12 PM
Now I understand what you trying to say that you can time the carbs and stuff fine as long as you dont eat too many and do not eat them throughout the day because it defeats the purpose. Carbs are used for one purpose, energy. Yes insulin is anabolic so it's testosterone BUT GH is even better...it sheds fat, is also anabolic and encourges the production of IGF which can multiply muscle cells. Now Pros try to do both use insulin for the anabolic effect and GH for muscle cell multiplication. Now I hope you understand my point. If you dont take all those drugs stick with low carbs you will get fat eventually if you try to imitate those guys. This carb cycling stuff comes from them because of their insulin use.
I can assure you im on a low carb diet and I get muscle growth and great pumps without a lot of insulin release. So spiking insulin because you think is anabolic will get you nowhere but get you fat unless your glycogen is low and you just replenishing that otherwise all extra glucose will become fat...your body cant get rid of it any other way unless you exercise continuously till all the energy is used up from those carbs.
Carbs are not the enemy I eat them too not for anabolic affect necessarely but to replace glycogen so I dont need a ton of them to accomplish that. I know when to eat them so it has minimal effect on my gh release.
07-16-2012, 11:32 PM
Lol i dont think you got my point but, i admire your detailed report and im glad you know how to use carbs to your advantage.
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