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  1. Quote Originally Posted by bi0hazurd View Post
    My numbers are

    Squat: 380
    Press: 225
    Deadlift: 540

    My squat and press are lighter than urs. But my deadlift is heavier than urs is. Why is that? If u are heavier and have been lifting much longer than me? An u have all this knowledge of routines. Ur just a butthurt basement dweller I don't deny that u are probably strong and in shape. But ur just a meathead and u love to criticize and flame other people like an Internet tough guy so u can gtfo my thread now.
    Meathead with a Master's degree in this particular field and I outweigh you by <10lbs (I was 215 this morning). Care to actually address the points that I made or are you just going to hypocritically flame me? I have no problem helping and teaching others, but you seem to be the person that asks for advice and then gets pissy when someone offers advice that you do not like.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by bi0hazurd View Post
    I'm curious as to why u think that way?
    there are several reasons why.

    My biggest beef with it is their implementation of high rep oly lifts (till fatigued) as a conditioning tool. They literally encourage bad form with their "dont be a pu**y" mentality. There is this glorification of overtraining with CF that is just simply retarded (for lack of a better word) Also to echo rodja, they need to focus more on individuals to address muscular imbalances, mobility and flexibility as opposed to their random broad spectrum workouts (WODs)

    I mean ur obviously ignorant if ur gonna disregard something I've never tried.
    i have a pretty good grasp of exercise science and S&amp;C programming (albeit prolly not as much as some of the other members here such as zir red or rodja) and have a basic understanding of the fundamentals of CF and their programming. This allows me to have an educated opinion on it and to be able to call it a horrible program

    But I'm also curious to know what ur numbers are?
    this is ad hominem and irrelevant to the discussion

    The routine ur on is probably a lot enter at making u stronger faster, more flexible, and have way more stamina and endurance. So I'm calling u out too.
    I use a combo of 5/3/1 and WS4SB
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by bi0hazurd View Post
    I'm curious as to why u think that way? I mean ur obviously ignorant if ur gonna disregard something I've never tried. But I'm also curious to know what ur numbers are? Seing as how CrossFit is obviously a waste of time. The routine ur on is probably a lot enter at making u stronger faster, more flexible, and have way more stamina and endurance. So I'm calling u out too. What's ur squat/deadlift/press? What's ur clean and jerk? How many strict pullups can u do? How many handstand pushups can u do? What is ur fastest 5k? What is ur fastest 53 yard sprint? What's ur 1RM weighted pullup? Sure u can lie and post some ridiculous numbers but ud only be lying to urself. I'll trust whatever scores/numbers u write down.
    LOL how many handstand pushups? What next? You wanna have a weighted hop-scotch competition? Who in the **** other than a cross-fitter would ask about handstand pushups. lol

    How many bosu ball squats can you do while balancing a copy of mens health on your head, and wearing a clown outfit?

    And strict pull-ups? Do you ****ers even do those? Everytime I see a CF'er doing pullups it looks like they are having a seizure, kipping like a mother ****er.

    Quote Originally Posted by bi0hazurd View Post
    My numbers are

    Squat: 380
    Press: 225
    Deadlift: 540
    I pressed 225 for a triple the other day....Strict over head ...heh

  4. Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    there are several reasons why.

    My biggest beef with it is their implementation of high rep oly lifts (till fatigued) as a conditioning tool. They literally encourage bad form with their "dont be a pu**y" mentality. There is this glorification of overtraining with CF that is just simply retarded (for lack of a better word) Also to echo rodja, they need to focus more on individuals to address muscular imbalances, mobility and flexibility as opposed to their random broad spectrum workouts (WODs)



    i have a oretty good grasp of exercise science and S&amp;C programming (albeit prolly not as much as some of the other members here such as zir red or rodja) and have a basic understanding of the fundamentals of CF and their programming. This allows me to have an educated opinion on it and to be able to call it a horrible program



    this is ad hominem and irrelevant to the discussion



    I use a combo of 5/3/1 and WS4SB
    I used 531. And it didn't produce as good results as CFFB. Side note who is gonn know more about what my body needs than me? Oly lifts are never used til fatigued on CFFB or on mainsite from what I've seen. Like I said u do not know what ur talking about.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Frank Reynolds View Post
    LOL how many handstand pushups? What next? You wanna have a weighted hop-scotch competition? Who in the **** other than a cross-fitter would ask about handstand pushups. lol

    How many bosu ball squats can you do while balancing a copy of mens health on your head, and wearing a clown outfit?

    And strict pull-ups? Do you ****ers even do those? Everytime I see a CF'er doing pullups it looks like they are having a seizure, kipping like a mother ****er.


    I pressed 225 for a triple the other day....Strict over head ...heh
    Best thing I've read on here in awhile.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by bi0hazurd View Post
    I used 531. And it didn't produce as good results as CFFB. Side note who is gonn know more about what my body needs than me? Oly lifts are never used til fatigued on CFFB or on mainsite from what I've seen. Like I said u do not know what ur talking about.
    This is a joke, right? Elizabeth, Grace, Isabel, etc. all use cleans and/or snatch for time. How long did you use 5/3/1? 3 months? That is not nearly enough time as the program is designed for 6 months minimum with at least a year recommended.
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by bi0hazurd View Post
    Oly lifts are never used til fatigued on CFFB or on mainsite from what I've seen. Like I said u do not know what ur talking about.
    Sigh...

    See below via CF mainsite

    “Isabel”
    Snatch 135 pounds, 30 reps for time
    "Grace"

    Clean and jerk 135 pounds, 30 reps for time
    And these are just two examples, there are others

    See- http://library.crossfit.com/free/pdf/27_04_new_girls.pdf
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  8. Lol this thread is gold.
    I see you finally went to IF rodja? Liking it so far?
    Biohazard, you obviously have some imbalances as your deadlift is way higher then your squat, and your bench is a far cry from impressive. Also your overall total is lower then rodjas. Besides ive yet to hear any world ranked powerlifter go, I love crossfit haha. Before you ask I hold a 475/275/501 in comp at a bw of 201 at 20.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by SweetLou321 View Post
    Lol this thread is gold.
    I see you finally went to IF rodja? Liking it so far?
    Biohazard, you obviously have some imbalances as your deadlift is way higher then your squat, and your bench is a far cry from impressive. Also your overall total is lower then rodjas. Besides ive yet to hear any world ranked powerlifter go, I love crossfit haha. Before you ask I hold a 475/275/501 in comp at a bw of 201 at 20.
    Thats my strict shoulder press. I did body weight bench so 210 for 40 reps last Thursday. An I did 315 for 2 a few days before

  10. Quote Originally Posted by SweetLou321 View Post
    Lol this thread is gold.
    I see you finally went to IF rodja? Liking it so far?
    Biohazard, you obviously have some imbalances as your deadlift is way higher then your squat, and your bench is a far cry from impressive. Also your overall total is lower then rodjas. Besides ive yet to hear any world ranked powerlifter go, I love crossfit haha. Before you ask I hold a 475/275/501 in comp at a bw of 201 at 20.
    And hold on. That middle number you posted is ur bench? 275? Dude ur routine is sick

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    This is a joke, right? Elizabeth, Grace, Isabel, etc. all use cleans and/or snatch for time. How long did you use 5/3/1? 3 months? That is not nearly enough time as the program is designed for 6 months minimum with at least a year recommended.
    Like I said I don't follow mainsite wods. I'm doing CrossFit Football. But I see no problem with doing reps of Oly lifts I mean what's better at making u good at Oly lifts than Oly lifts themselves

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    This is a joke, right? Elizabeth, Grace, Isabel, etc. all use cleans and/or snatch for time. How long did you use 5/3/1? 3 months? That is not nearly enough time as the program is designed for 6 months minimum with at least a year recommended.
    Hey was ur middle number referring to bench also?

  13. Quote Originally Posted by bi0hazurd View Post
    Like I said I don't follow mainsite wods. I'm doing CrossFit Football. But I see no problem with doing reps of Oly lifts I mean what's better at making u good at Oly lifts than Oly lifts themselves
    Not too familiar with energy systems, are you? The absolute most, and this is really pushing it, that a set of Oly lifts should be is 5 reps. You cannot have proper technique and maximal force production while fatigued.

    Another thing, and this is a plague within CF, that makes no sense for CFF is that there is not consideration given to position. A lineman does not have the seem demands as a receiver.

    Quote Originally Posted by bi0hazurd View Post
    Hey was ur middle number referring to bench also?
    Yes, because those are the main PLs. If I had to guess where my OHP is, I'd say it's minimum 205 and probably closer to 225, but it's an ancillary lift in my training.
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Not too familiar with energy systems, are you? The absolute most, and this is really pushing it, that a set of Oly lifts should be is 5 reps. You cannot have proper technique and maximal force production while fatigued.

    Another thing, and this is a plague within CF, that makes no sense for CFF is that there is not consideration given to position. A lineman does not have the seem demands as a receiver.



    Yes, because those are the main PLs. If I had to guess where my OHP is, I'd say it's minimum 205 and probably closer to 225, but it's an ancillary lift in my training.
    In that case my lifts are 380/315/540 which makes my total less than urs by 10lbs huh? And isn't that about how many lbs heavier than me u are? Too bad ur masters isn't good at increasing ur lifts

  15. Quote Originally Posted by bi0hazurd View Post
    In that case my lifts are 380/315/540 which makes my total less than urs by 10lbs huh? And isn't that about how many lbs heavier than me u are? Too bad ur masters isn't good at increasing ur lifts
    It's funny how you always change the topic when you don't have a rebuttal to an issue that is presented to you (e.g. energy systems in regards to the Oly lifts, the gaping holes within CF, etc.). Instead of presenting something to counter the issues that have been presented to you, you've (fallaciously) turned this into a **** measuring contest. Am I a record holder in anything, no, but I never pretended to be one. I've been PL'ing for 2 years after training MMA for over 5 years, which was a time that I did not train to improve 1RM. However, I am not arrogant like you in that I listen to advice from people that are smarter than me. If you can't take criticism, then stop asking for advice on what to do and/or change.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  16. Quote Originally Posted by bi0hazurd View Post
    In that case my lifts are 380/315/540 which makes my total less than urs by 10lbs huh? And isn't that about how many lbs heavier than me u are? Too bad ur masters isn't good at increasing ur lifts
    Vids of said lifts?

  17. In conclusion u guys bash my training when really the routines u are doing aren't helping u get much stronger than am. A couple pounds more on ur totals but only in squats. Give me 3-4 weeks and I'll pass that weight too. But not only that I will have increased my endurance, speed, flexibility, explosion, balance. Rodja telling me how knowledgable u are an how u have a masters isn't impressive when Youve clearly been doing this for years and ur older than I am. All of u other guys that are riding rodjas jock seriously need to get ur own POV on things and stop saying the exact same things he says and stop kissing his ass cuz he has a masters and "says" he knows so much. I'm getting off this site it's only for bodybuilders and people that are close minded to routines that they aren't familiar with. Rodja... Deuces. A 19 year old coffee distributor tht doesn't have a masters degree and hasn't studied anything regarding nutrition other than things he's read on the Internet is almost at par with u.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Frank Reynolds View Post
    Vids of said lifts?
    As soon as they do another CFFB total I'll post my vids to YouTube and then add the link to this thread.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by bi0hazurd View Post
    In conclusion u guys bash my training when really the routines u are doing aren't helping u get much stronger than am. A couple pounds more on ur totals but only in squats. Give me 3-4 weeks and I'll pass that weight too. But not only that I will have increased my endurance, speed, flexibility, explosion, balance. Rodja telling me how knowledgable u are an how u have a masters isn't impressive when Youve clearly been doing this for years and ur older than I am. All of u other guys that are riding rodjas jock seriously need to get ur own POV on things and stop saying the exact same things he says and stop kissing his ass cuz he has a masters and "says" he knows so much. I'm getting off this site it's only for bodybuilders and people that are close minded to routines that they aren't familiar with. Rodja... Deuces. A 19 year old coffee distributor tht doesn't have a masters degree and hasn't studied anything regarding nutrition other than things he's read on the Internet is almost at par with u.
    I believe this is more accurate:

    In conclusion, I'm going to leave because I can't come up with an intelligent rebuttal and don't like to be criticized. I know what I'm doing even though I constantly ask for advice and direction and will argue endlessly with advice that I don't like or take to be a personal attack. My mommy says I'm special and that's all that matters.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  20. Quote Originally Posted by bi0hazurd View Post
    In conclusion u guys bash my training when really the routines u are doing aren't helping u get much stronger than am. A couple pounds more on ur totals but only in squats. Give me 3-4 weeks and I'll pass that weight too. But not only that I will have increased my endurance, speed, flexibility, explosion, balance. Rodja telling me how knowledgable u are an how u have a masters isn't impressive when Youve clearly been doing this for years and ur older than I am. All of u other guys that are riding rodjas jock seriously need to get ur own POV on things and stop saying the exact same things he says and stop kissing his ass cuz he has a masters and "says" he knows so much. I'm getting off this site it's only for bodybuilders and people that are close minded to routines that they aren't familiar with. Rodja... Deuces. A 19 year old coffee distributor tht doesn't have a masters degree and hasn't studied anything regarding nutrition other than things he's read on the Internet is almost at par with u.
    Just because you are extremely knowledgeable about something doesn't mean you have the genetic predisposition to excel at it, nor does it mean you will push the same envelop as others in terms of what it takes to get there.

    Do you think Hany Rambod, or Chris Aceto could ever amount to the bodybuilders they prep(Heath, Cutler, Big Ced, etc)? Does it take away from their expertise?

    Look at your IDOL Mark Riptoe. Dude looks like a bloated piece of donkey ****, isn't even strong, yet he still knows his stuff and is highly regarded as a strength coach. Go call him out.

    Someone like Rodja built a great strength base, and while he might not be pulling elite totals, the fact that he has at least walked the walk, coupled with his knowledge gives him credibility.

    Quote Originally Posted by bi0hazurd View Post
    As soon as they do another CFFB total I'll post my vids to YouTube and then add the link to this thread.
    Cool. I will keep an eye out for it.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    I believe this is more accurate:In conclusion, I'm going to leave because I can't come up with an intelligent rebuttal and don't like to be criticized. I know what I'm doing even though I constantly ask for advice and direction and will argue endlessly with advice that I don't like or take to be a personal attack. My mommy says I'm special and that's all that matters.
    Lol that's funny bro! But u weren't helping me with my question IN ANY WAY u just went out and insulted CF. cool guy

  22. Quote Originally Posted by bi0hazurd View Post
    Lol that's funny bro! But u weren't helping me with my question IN ANY WAY u just went out and insulted CF. cool guy
    Uh, no...my original post was to counter the ignorance about saying you can't gain strength while eating in an IF fashion. The source of the ignorance happened to come from CF and I presented to you my issues with CF and you never answered ANY of them. Instead, you changed the topic and then changed the thread into attacking those that are critical of all CF.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  23. Quote Originally Posted by bi0hazurd View Post
    I mean ur obviously ignorant if ur gonna disregard something I've never tried.
    I've never tried heroin or arsenic, I don't need to so as to understand they aren't a great idea.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    I've never tried heroin or arsenic, I don't need to so as to understand they aren't a great idea.
    WHAT?!?! You never tried heroin?



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  25. Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    You dont have to partake in CF in order to know it is a horrible program
    Pretty much this. I don't have to run 800 meters all out, do 40 squat reps as heavy as possible, run 800 more meters and then do high rep oly lifts to tell you that's freaking stupid.
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