You know what? F#ck carbs!

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    It is Irritable Bowel Syndrome. Just to be sure, because IBS can stand for a lot of other things too.
    Most times in the US it is referred to as IBS though. And one more thing, those symptoms are not only from IBS. If you are experiencing those you might wanna look into other illnesses. Gut health and gut integrity are very important!
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by vidapreta View Post
    Hey AutoKal I'm the one who steered this thread into you getting yourself checked by an MD for IBS, but you don't reply too my posts so, F#CK OFF...LOL

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    lol man, I thought I quote/replied to you in my previous sorry
    Honestly I didn't know about IBS up until now, surely the docs should have thought about it
    when I got checked tho'..

    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    It is Irritable Bowel Syndrome. Just to be sure, because IBS can stand for a lot of other things too.
    Yes, that's what I was reading about

    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    Most times in the US it is referred to as IBS though. And one more thing, those symptoms are not only from IBS. If you are experiencing those you might wanna look into other illnesses. Gut health and gut integrity are very important!
    But that's the closest thing I can think about, they excluded ulcer, gastritis, colitis, food poisoning and intolerance, and a bunch of other
    things.. It has been so random that IBS could explain at least a big part of it if not everything.
    Carbs have always been a problem, but when I had it really bad last time (when I got checked) *any* kind of food
    was causing it.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by AutoKal47 View Post
    lol man, I thought I quote/replied to you in my previous sorry
    Honestly I didn't know about IBS up until now, surely the docs should have thought about it
    when I got checked tho'..



    Yes, that's what I was reading about



    But that's the closest thing I can think about, they excluded ulcer, gastritis, colitis, food poisoning and intolerance, and a bunch of other
    things.. It has been so random that IBS could explain at least a big part of it if not everything.
    Carbs have always been a problem, but when I had it really bad last time (when I got checked) *any* kind of food
    was causing it.
    In America it is speculated that most american's suffer from it lol....
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    In America it is speculated that most american's suffer from it lol....
    Yep, plus if stress is a possible cause and/or it can make it worse, well, I'm in all the way..
    Beside my training habits which would probably be enough already, my job is also very stressful
    at the moment
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    In America it is speculated that most american's suffer from it lol....
    Not really. You have to be diagnosed with it. I was diagnosed with it about 16 years ago when it wasn't as common. I was only around 23 years old back then. I had an endoscopy, colonoscopy and a ton of other tests before I was finally diagnosed with it. In other countries the doctors may not have even considered it. So I would bet that AutoKal might indeed have it. I'm not if there are easier tests today to figure out if you have it or not. All the other tests I had were to rule out other problems.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Not really. You have to be diagnosed with it. I was diagnosed with it about 16 years ago when it wasn't as common. I was only around 23 years old back then. I had an endoscopy, colonoscopy and a ton of other tests before I was finally diagnosed with it. In other countries the doctors may not have even considered it. So I would bet that AutoKal might indeed have it. I'm not if there are easier tests today to figure out if you have it or not. All the other tests I had were to rule out other problems.
    my friend just went through the surgery to get his colon removed and then reversed to help him with his ulcerative colitis. It has been almost a year it is hard to say if it has helped though.

  7. Any updates on this Autokal?

  8. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Any updates on this Autokal?

    Hey man,

    actually yes, I've been sitting with 3 docs at the hospital this week,
    2 times, the first time they mostly had no idea, took a coupla days to analyze the whole
    thing and they came out with the theory that simply my body stopped producing the enzyme(s)
    needed to digest carbs.
    Since enzymes are expensive to produce for the body and it would make sense it stopped
    producing sucrase for example, if is not needed.

    I personally think is possible seeing how long I've been in a very low carb diet,
    also another thing that I think it fits regards the symptoms.
    In particular they said the problem is in the stomach digestion: assuming the pH of my stomach
    became very acid this would cause the destruction of the enzyme responsible for carb digestion (they explained
    much better than I'm doing..)
    But anyway, the part that fits my symptoms comes: if that's the case, the offending food will cause discomfort
    and such until it leaves the stomach to go into the small intestine, which sounds a lot like what's happening
    when i eat carbs.

    The cure would be to try to restore those enzymes, and at the same time to start to slowly reintroduce carbs
    in the diet (which it ain't happening).
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by AutoKal47

    Hey man,

    actually yes, I've been sitting with 3 docs at the hospital this week,
    2 times, the first time they mostly had no idea, took a coupla days to analyze the whole
    thing and they came out with the theory that simply my body stopped producing the enzyme(s)
    needed to digest carbs.
    Since enzymes are expensive to produce for the body and it would make sense it stopped
    producing sucrase for example, if is not needed.

    I personally think is possible seeing how long I've been in a very low carb diet,
    also another thing that I think it fits regards the symptoms.
    In particular they said the problem is in the stomach digestion: assuming the pH of my stomach
    became very acid this would cause the destruction of the enzyme responsible for carb digestion (they explained
    much better than I'm doing..)
    But anyway, the part that fits my symptoms comes: if that's the case, the offending food will cause discomfort
    and such until it leaves the stomach to go into the small intestine, which sounds a lot like what's happening
    when i eat carbs.

    The cure would be to try to restore those enzymes, and at the same time to start to slowly reintroduce carbs
    in the diet (which it ain't happening).
    Sorry to hear that bro. But then again, you now know you shouldn't be eating um.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    I have IBS. Digestive enzymes don't do a thing. They're a joke.
    A good probiotic supplement will help w/IBS.

  11. Kinda hard to argue with somebody with a BF% like Kals haha

  12. I had some of the same problems for years and finally had tests done.Gastritis,ibs,and a touch of diverticulitis.I found that pasta,beans,and potatoes are a killer for me all these years so I gave them up and it did help.I may even go as far as he did and give them all up.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Bigez View Post
    I had some of the same problems for years and finally had tests done.Gastritis,ibs,and a touch of diverticulitis.I found that pasta,beans,and potatoes are a killer for me all these years so I gave them up and it did help.I may even go as far as he did and give them all up.
    Those carbs (with the exception of spaghetti) are easy for me to give up. It's the ones in Peppermint patties, snickers, peanut butter cups, skittles, M&M's, Milky Way's, Fun Dip, Kit Kat, Hershey's, that are the toughest on me to go without

  14. Quote Originally Posted by AutoKal47 View Post
    Hey man,

    actually yes, I've been sitting with 3 docs at the hospital this week,
    2 times, the first time they mostly had no idea, took a coupla days to analyze the whole
    thing and they came out with the theory that simply my body stopped producing the enzyme(s)
    needed to digest carbs.
    Since enzymes are expensive to produce for the body and it would make sense it stopped
    producing sucrase for example, if is not needed.
    ...
    The cure would be to try to restore those enzymes, and at the same time to start to slowly reintroduce carbs
    in the diet (which it ain't happening).
    Hey buddy,

    Sorry to hear about the badish news, but glad to hear that it seems to be manageable. I'm not a doctor yet, so any advice I give is for entertainment purposes only. That said, if you're low not just on sucrase, but on multiple glucosidases (especially amylase), your symptoms sound like a lot like chronic pancreatitis. I know you said that you had a gastroscopy, but If you have insurance or can afford it, I think that getting an ultrasound of your pancreas might not be a bad idea (this might be what you meant by 'echography'). If you have insurance, possibly push for a CT scan, too--those will run you about $2000-$3000, whereas an ultrasound should only be ~$600-$1200, but rumor has it that CT scans are excellent diagnostic tools. If *I* learned that my own amylase levels were acting up, my first course of action would be to find out ASAP whether I had pancreatic cancer or a predisposition thereto. As I say, I'm not giving medical advice—just suggesting a few things that you should bring up to your licensed medical care provider. Also, you might ask about a fasting glucose blood test; these kind of suck, but information about the time profile of your personal glucose metabolism can be useful for managing day-to-day things.

    Finally, if this all turns out to be nothing serious, but you want to carb-up from time to time for whatever reason, could you try straight glucose? Again, something to discuss with your qualified medical professional, but I would imagine that glucose tabs, or a glucose drip (if you can acquire one) would bypass most of your digestive concerns. Without more details on your pancreatic enzyme situation, I can't say how glycogen production/storage would go for you, but glucose throughout a workout would accomplish something similar. (Trolls: I know that an over-simplification...IGF-1, etc., etc.. I actually find that question very interesting, so feel free to PM me)

    Ok--hope this helps

    Stay strong, brother!

  15. Have you tried a Paleo diet?

  16. Quote Originally Posted by adamcj1 View Post
    Hey buddy,

    Sorry to hear about the badish news, but glad to hear that it seems to be manageable. I'm not a doctor yet, so any advice I give is for entertainment purposes only. That said, if you're low not just on sucrase, but on multiple glucosidases (especially amylase), your symptoms sound like a lot like chronic pancreatitis. I know you said that you had a gastroscopy, but If you have insurance or can afford it, I think that getting an ultrasound of your pancreas might not be a bad idea (this might be what you meant by 'echography'). If you have insurance, possibly push for a CT scan, too--those will run you about $2000-$3000, whereas an ultrasound should only be ~$600-$1200, but rumor has it that CT scans are excellent diagnostic tools. If *I* learned that my own amylase levels were acting up, my first course of action would be to find out ASAP whether I had pancreatic cancer or a predisposition thereto. As I say, I'm not giving medical advice—just suggesting a few things that you should bring up to your licensed medical care provider. Also, you might ask about a fasting glucose blood test; these kind of suck, but information about the time profile of your personal glucose metabolism can be useful for managing day-to-day things.

    Finally, if this all turns out to be nothing serious, but you want to carb-up from time to time for whatever reason, could you try straight glucose? Again, something to discuss with your qualified medical professional, but I would imagine that glucose tabs, or a glucose drip (if you can acquire one) would bypass most of your digestive concerns. Without more details on your pancreatic enzyme situation, I can't say how glycogen production/storage would go for you, but glucose throughout a workout would accomplish something similar. (Trolls: I know that an over-simplification...IGF-1, etc., etc.. I actually find that question very interesting, so feel free to PM me)

    Ok--hope this helps

    Stay strong, brother!
    Thanks for the advice man, much appreciated.
    Right now I do not miss carbs at all, actually, three weeks without carbing up and I'm feeling great,
    and - oh well - I look better ahah
    sc#ew carbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Gutterpump View Post
    Have you tried a Paleo diet?
    Nope, I'm not planning on changing my diet at all anytime soon, I made that mistake
    in past, ain't happening again. I found my sweet spot, I really don't miss anything food wise
    but for the most part food for me is just a tool to achieve what I want from my body.
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