Anybody find it hard to eat as soon you wake?

[mikeg313]

This has always been a problem for me ecspecially when on a strict lifting diet so im curious if anybody has the same issue and any tips or tricks theyve used to get over it. usually it takes me up to 2 hours after waking up to get an appetite where I don't have to choke down my food and that's what I have to do anyhow in order to stay on a full eating schedule for the day and fit it in through daily routine.

[David Dunn]

I simply have no time to eat before I train at 4:00AM

Fasted training with a BCAA pre/intra.

[mikeg313]

Do you find it effects your strength any?

[VS91588]

If u fast train ita not gonna affect ur strength if u provide propped nutrition throughout ur day. May be the 1st week will be hard but the human body adapts to changes

[David Dunn]

Out of necessity I have always trained fasted. I train bodybuilder style with various periodization strategies. For me strength is not really effected by any pre workout nutrition but rather by daily caloric intake. I adjust my daily caloric intake according to my goals.

In regard to BCAA's, I simply use them because they are predigested and quickly assimilated and available to support protein synthesis and a positive nitrogen balance going into my training. I cannot say I would attribute them directly to an increased strength but I cannot say that it doesn't either, as I have always used them in this fashion.

[ponysteak]

I had to start doing the same thing as David due to time. I do 5g bcaas upon waking and go to the gym. However, when I get home I'm ready to eat he entire kitchen haha. Strength is unaffected.

[Whacked]

Why not slam a P-shake? Make it with a reduced amount of liquid if you dont want any "food volume". Throw in some fat/oils if you need calories. I used to make coffee flavored p-shakes back in the day and would sip on it while reading the paper.

This has always been a problem for me ecspecially when on a strict lifting diet so im curious if anybody has the same issue and any tips or tricks theyve used to get over it. usually it takes me up to 2 hours after waking up to get an appetite where I don't have to choke down my food and that's what I have to do anyhow in order to stay on a full eating schedule for the day and fit it in through daily routine.

[mikeg313]

Definitely something to consider. As I get older I find training later in the day is becoming a drag. Now If I can drag my ass outa bed a couple hours earlier and get motivated ;-) What pre/intra do you recommend? Something with no stims or at least minimum caffeine would be great. Recent heart issue was a bit alarming so I'm tryin to be careful.

[Whacked]

Ooooo I began working out 1st thing AM years ago for the same reason or forget it!

Takes a few weeks to get used to it. It did for me. Now I've been doing it for years. It's also nice to not have to deal with the punk kids.

I'm not the person to ask about pre-w/o drinks as I havent been impressed by any of them or they have all sorts of artifical fillers I dont want. These days, 200 mg caffeine, BCAA's and ALCAR do the trick just fine for me.

Like you, I despise breakfast. I train "fasted" anyway so I make a jug of BCAAS (adding creatine as needed) and slam 1/3rd ASAP, take to gym and sip throughout workout. when Im finished training, I slam a p-shake.

I dont eat my first FOOD meal until 10am (I wake up at 6).

Definitely something to consider. As I get older I find training later in the day is becoming a drag. Now If I can drag my ass outa bed a couple hours earlier and get motivated ;-) What pre/intra do you recommend? Something with no stims or at least minimum caffeine would be great. Recent heart issue was a bit alarming so I'm tryin to be careful.

[Rodja]

I typically don't eat for 2-3 hours after I wake up in the morning. The same applies to post-WO; I'll drink some WPI and eat some fruit; but an actual meal takes awhile since I'm usually both gassed and nauseous.

[mikeg313]

Ooooo I began working out 1st thing AM years ago for the same reason or forget it!

Takes a few weeks to get used to it. It did for me. Now I've been doing it for years. It's also nice to not have to deal with the punk kids.

I'm not the person to ask about pre-w/o drinks as I havent been impressed by any of them or they have all sorts of artifical fillers I dont want. These days, 200 mg caffeine, BCAA's and ALCAR do the trick just fine for me.

I quit trying PWOs awhile back cus they made me feel like crap. Lately I've been doing BCAAs, creatine and then a black coffee on the way to the gym (before my heart attack). I like that alot better but I'm a bit concerned about the caffeine now since its a vasoconstrictor. I'm not familiar with ALCAR.

[AaronJP1]

I typically don't eat for 2-3 hours after I wake up in the morning. The same applies to post-WO; I'll drink some WPI and eat some fruit; but an actual meal takes awhile since I'm usually both gassed and nauseous.

You are almost nauseous after every work out?

[Rodja]

You are almost nauseous after every work out?

Yes, training for maximal strength will do that to you.

[Whacked]

I'd ask your doc what his thought are on any amounts of caffeine and how this might affect you. Not something to play around with.

ALCAR: Acetyl-L-Carnitine. See the 3 links below (NON-stim energy supps). It may provide some solid sensible options for you.

Stim free energy boost

NON stim energy boost

non-stim energy supps?

Now Brand makes a supplement called Energy. It has a laundry list of non-stimulating "energy" vitamins/minerals and only has 50 mg of caffeine but it has all sorts of adrenal gland ingredients and the typical herbal adaptogens and pick-me-ups (rhodiloa,etc). I've used it to get off my stim-addiction. it packs a very mild punch but for a stim junkie to say that, Im sure it's golden to those who have not abused. It might be a very healthy alternative option for you.

I quit trying PWOs awhile back cus they made me feel like crap. Lately I've been doing BCAAs, creatine and then a black coffee on the way to the gym (before my heart attack). I like that alot better but I'm a bit concerned about the caffeine now since its a vasoconstrictor. I'm not familiar with ALCAR.

[Whacked]

Do you notice a leaning effect from not doing the typical slamming of calories logic employed by most? I sure do.

I typically don't eat for 2-3 hours after I wake up in the morning. The same applies to post-WO; I'll drink some WPI and eat some fruit; but an actual meal takes awhile since I'm usually both gassed and nauseous.

[lonewolf0420]

I typically don't eat for 2-3 hours after I wake up in the morning. The same applies to post-WO; I'll drink some WPI and eat some fruit; but an actual meal takes awhile since I'm usually both gassed and nauseous.

True dat.

A whey shake about a half hour after I wake is typically the only thing my stomach gets for a little while.

[superchris]

Not much of a desire to eat nor cook breakfast first thing in the morning so I do a nice protein shake with 60 grams of protein and around 700 calories. Once I get to work, I eat scrambled eggs and some yogurt and maybe some sausage (usually around 2 hours after waking up). Seems to work nicely for me.

[SXIPro]

If I had time to eat in the morning, I'd have a 6 egg omelet every damn day. I could eat 24/7. It really is a miracle I'm not 500 lbs.

I train fasted as well. 5:30 AM. I'll do a protein shake around 7:30 then Greek Yogurt w/fruit around 9:00.

[Rodja]

Do you notice a leaning effect from not doing the typical slamming of calories logic employed by most? I sure do.

It helps. I pretty much only eat when I am hungry and that can vary from 3-7 meals/day (depending on the training day, food selection, etc.).

[Matkl]

This has always been a problem for me ecspecially when on a strict lifting diet so im curious if anybody has the same issue and any tips or tricks theyve used to get over it. usually it takes me up to 2 hours after waking up to get an appetite where I don't have to choke down my food and that's what I have to do anyhow in order to stay on a full eating schedule for the day and fit it in through daily routine.

Instant oats cures this for me, 3 scoops (150 grams) is the equivalent of 5 or 6 bowls of oats to get the carbs in and couple of scoops of protein to get the protein in and focus on eating the protein later on, M.