Seriously though,,, doctors for the most part cater to the insurance companies, by giving you "good enough" .... I want "BEST" "OPTIMAL" .... hell the RDA for vitamins is the minimal amount needed to avoid sickness and death,, it is nowhere near the "optimal daily allowance" I am certainly willing to take minimal risks in search of "OPTIMAL" testosterone levels... not willing to do actual steroids which get T levels over 5k.... simply want the upper level of normal,,, not low or mid normal,,,,, I am not an idiot who just takes anything someone tells me to take and am far from being a lemming slave to marketing as well... I always research people's suggestions first