need to lower testosterone
- 08-09-2011, 02:14 PM
need to lower testosterone
im 22 years old, my testosterone is 14 on a scale of 10-30, which includes people who are 100 years old and so on.
the mean for my age is 24 :/, my doctor wont treat me because im still within the 'norm'
however i am experiencing low test symptoms, weak erections, low libido, lethargy
im going for another test soon, how can i lower it to about 10/11 so he will put me on TRT? thanks
otherwise he said he cant do anything :/
- 08-09-2011, 02:19 PM
- 08-09-2011, 02:37 PM
08-09-2011, 02:59 PM
Maby up the intensity? Not directe at you, but I hate it when guys who dont even gunt in the gym complain about their problems. I GD scream.
08-09-2011, 03:25 PM
if you slept like 3 hours a night and drank every night for a week leading up to that test your test levels would probably be lower. I think thats dumb though
08-09-2011, 03:44 PM
08-09-2011, 03:45 PM
08-09-2011, 03:53 PM
08-09-2011, 04:04 PM
Jibba, try talking to the user here The Matrix. He won't help you out with lowering your testosterone but may suggest other tests. Your doctor won't put you on TRT for low testosterone because..... you don't have low testosterone. Sure it is lower than middle of the scale, but by itself that doesn't mean anything and outside of other hormone abnormalities shouldn't give you low tesosterone symptoms. From what that scale seems like, that would clock in around 500ng/dl on the US scale which is fine, as The Matrix would tell you from his medical practice there are pro athletes with that level.
08-09-2011, 04:23 PM
08-09-2011, 04:27 PM
08-09-2011, 04:29 PM
08-09-2011, 04:30 PM
08-09-2011, 04:32 PM
There are tons of reasons for a low libido + weak erections, as MakaveliThaDon said, find a doctor who will treat your symptom and find the root cause, not just take one number by itself and determine your rest of life treatment based on that.
08-09-2011, 04:36 PM
08-09-2011, 04:37 PM
08-09-2011, 04:38 PM
i cant show the link but the mean for my age is 24 with only 6 standard deviation and im 4 below the lowest result within this test on healthy males
08-09-2011, 04:41 PM
Test 5th % 10th % 95th %
<25 125 23.97 5.48 24.15 14.15 16.22 33.12
25-29 354 23.18 7.14 22.08 13.46 15.18 34.84
30-34 330 21.53 6.72 20.70 12.07 13.46 33.81
35-39 212 20.70 6.55 19.66 11.39 13.46 32.77
40-44 148 20.70 6.87 20.70 11.04 13.11 32.43
45-49 154 18.91 5.66 18.28 11.39 12.42 29.32
50-54 164 18.87 6.49 17.94 10.01 12.07 32.43
55-59 155 19.14 6.04 18.97 11.04 11.73 30.01
08-09-2011, 05:38 PM
Easy's right, you really can't tell by just that one reading. I am in practically the same boat as you being 21 years old with a test level in the low 400's and similar symptoms...My dad has a level over 550 and he is almost 30 years older then me, but I am still a decent athlete despite all of this...You're definitely going to have to look at other hormones like estrogen, prolactin, SHBG, and others like Easy mentioned or else you're just guessing. Stress can only hurt the situation too since your cortisol could also be sky high and effecting your energy levels and libido.
08-09-2011, 05:55 PM
08-09-2011, 05:59 PM
08-09-2011, 06:01 PM
08-09-2011, 06:09 PM
To share something (and I can post the bloodwork) I have a blood test showing me at a 20 total testosterone (scale of 241-827), free testosterone nonmeasurable, LH and FSH below measurable as well. Estradiol at 37 (on range of 0-53) and the night before that blood test with no other androgens in system I got an erection and had sex. Low testosterone can cause that but sex and erections can happen with low testosterone as well.
08-09-2011, 07:18 PM
08-09-2011, 07:31 PM
If he won't treat you for TRT than do it yourself. 1cc a week of test-e or you can do 1 shot every other week since test-e stays in your body longer. Private TRT will deff bs cheaper too and you can always get checkups done by your doc thanks to health insurance lol
08-09-2011, 07:51 PM
First, he's 22, hasn't had thorough hormone panels. Investigate before treating.... He may have high estrogen and an AI will help. Or high prolactin.
Second, trt costs me $25 every 3 months, cheaper than I can do it with low grade underground lab gear.
08-09-2011, 07:58 PM
Oh wow I just noticed the age.. My bad bro. I was just saying cuz I know this one dude in my gym he's like 50-something years old and he told me he TRT's himselfOriginally Posted by EasyEJL
08-09-2011, 10:18 PM
Yeah, if insurance doesn't cover it, a 10ml vial is $70-100 depending on pharmacy and you can get ugl for less than that.
08-09-2011, 10:24 PM
08-09-2011, 10:28 PM
Peanuts from Chinese suppliers if you buy in moderate bulk.Originally Posted by VS91588
08-09-2011, 10:34 PM
08-10-2011, 12:38 AM
lulz i pay 150 for my RX 10ml test cyp@ 200mg/ml
on the black market I could get it for 45 bucks@300mg/ml but i dont wanna do anything illegal
08-10-2011, 06:13 AM
08-10-2011, 09:28 AM
08-10-2011, 09:37 AM
Maybe thyroid related? Were your thyroids tested? Maybe even a pituitary tumor? There's plenty of things possible, finding the real cause before jumping straight to trt (which may make the root cause harder to diagnose) is important for your long term health. You'll be alive more than 50 more years, a couple of months more of low libido while finding the real cause is worth it
08-10-2011, 09:57 AM
08-10-2011, 11:16 AM
08-10-2011, 04:06 PM
08-10-2011, 04:15 PM
Two bumps in five hours--you ARE worried about this.
Try this--stop OVERTHINKING IT SO MUCH.
Endocrine tests don't define you. Your problem is that you "believe" you have a condition (your words) and you want to trick some doctor into treating your beliefs.
Ditch the beliefs, stop focusing so much on your "symptoms" and start focusing on living.
08-10-2011, 04:57 PM
I hate ignorant people like you, ive dealt with these symptoms for 3 years, ive tried my best to improve my test and erection strength, NOTHING HAS QORKED, and my ignorant gp wont treat me because im in the norm of an 80 year old man, so unless youve been through the same i suggest u keep your opinions to yourself
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