The fasting diet is for morons!!!

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    I am not a follower of IF. Personally, I don't have a consistent enough schedule to use it. My training times vary from 9AM to 3PM depending on the day and my schedule. Plus, I've trained fasted in the past and it is not fun for me. I have enough hypoglycemic bouts when I'm eating throughout the day.
    Im definitely not trying to say IF is the fix all for everyone, but it has kept my blood sugar more stable than eating small meals did. I used to get sick in the gym if I hadn't ate before working out, but its not an issue now. I can train totally fasted if I want and not get sick. I think it probably has a lot to do with whether or not your hypoglycemia is reactive or not.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    The more I read about nutrition and consult with dozens of different athletes competing in different realms, the more I become convinced that most make it all too complicated. If you're hungry, then eat until you're satisfied. If you're not hungry, then don't eat. There are some days when you will eat 7 meals a day and others where you only have 4 meals.
    Ding, ding, ding! lol. I personally use this method of eating. I used to do the 7-8 meals a day diet and it exhausted the living hell out of me. I crashed and burned everytime and would end up ping-ponging between, "I'm on track and got my meals dialed in!" and, "Damn, I've been missing meals left and right. I give up."

    Now, I eat when I am hungry and I eat the meals in the proportion of macros that work for me. I still worry from time to time about gaining fat from eating a certain cheat meal or whatnot, but for the most part I haven't really done anything or ate anything that has made much of a negative impact on my body.

    I really dig what I've been reading about the IF and I do believe in the method of eating multiple small meals as well. Like every intelligent person in this thread has said, do what works for you and to what helps you achieve YOUR goal. Coors, there's not really much need to be cursing at people and calling people names. We're all good people here. Let's keep our argument and debates civil.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Not sure you would be a good candidate anyway. I mean if your body type is right for it you still train more extremely than most and for long periods if I am not mistaken. This may constitute more frequent nutrition. I love my fasted workouts but if they were much longer I am not sure I would. Not saying I wouldn't but it would be something I would have to experiment with if I was in that position. As a bodybuilder I believe in short intensive sessions for the most part.
    Same here. I end up working out 50 minutes full body workouts, Mon/Weds/Fri and will do pushups and abs at home on Tuesday and Thursday and the weekends I am usually active. If I feel like it, I may do cardio on my in between days.

  4. To the OP... You're the reason why the world is becoming dumber and dumber. Pick up a book, do some research... Then start a thread you idiot. Either you are really dumb or you just want attention. I'm not going to read the 8 pages because i'm not going to waste my time... But for those that want to learn about intermittent fasting please sign up on Dat's forum and read all of his threads. You will thank me.
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  5. Tired of the drama in this thread lol.Who cares what diet people choose to follow? Ultimately they will find out if it works or doesn't. If it doesn't work they will move back to a traditional 6-8 meal a day protocol. The research cannot be neglected though.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    Tired of the drama in this thread lol.Who cares what diet people choose to follow? Ultimately they will find out if it works or doesn't. If it doesn't work they will move back to a traditional 6-8 meal a day protocol. The research cannot be neglected though.
    Stake end tators > diets

    Seriously, I agree. Unless there's some new evidence on which diet works for ME, I am going back to preparing for my noon feast!
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    Stake end tators > diets

    Seriously, I agree. Unless there's some new evidence on which diet works for ME, I am going back to preparing for my noon feast!
    Ill be feasting at 11:00
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    Ill be feasting at 11:00
    I like the anticipation
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf View Post
    oh man, I wonder if anyone remembers the horror of getting this script running on their browser back in the day (although it was absolutely hilarious at the same time).

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    I will point out a great irony here in that so many people are using the Caveman analogy here, but also do not have the food selection from that era. How many using IF are also following Paleo principles?
    I may not follow the Paleo principals perfectly with my diet, but in the past I did have to knock the few lucky women over the head before dragging them by the hair back to my cave in order to get lucky, LoL!
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc View Post
    I may not follow the Paleo principals perfectly with my diet, but in the past I did have to knock the few lucky women over the head before dragging them by the hair back to my cave in order to get lucky, LoL!
    when I attempted paleo, I got to where I had to eat half a jar of almond butter a day just to keep weight up. I was consuming WAY more calories on it than off it just to stay level and recomp.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    when I attempted paleo, I got to where I had to eat half a jar of almond butter a day just to keep weight up. I was consuming WAY more calories on it than off it just to stay level and recomp.
    I was only messing around, LoL, I have never attempted the Paleo diet personally!

    I am like most of the guys on this thread, I do the research, I follow people's logs and try to figure out what is best for me based on their body types and what their diet is doing for them, etc. I am personally doing my own log with my normal way of shredding down (6 meals a day/meal every 3-4hrs) I am only doing this because I have a goal and a deadline and this has proven to work for me many times in the past, so my train of thought is... "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!" But, with that being said, once I have completed my shredd and am looking to maintain my hard earned muscle and fat loss, I will definitely be giving Lean Gains a fair shake. Both Doug & Chris seem to have very similar body types and metabolisms to my own, so I am very confident it will work well for me, if not, well I'll just chalk it off as an experiment which I learned from, but I really think it will work for me just fine!

    Again, I am only repeating what I have read a number of times in this thread, but, we are all here to learn and find what works best for our own bodies and you can't do that if you find just one way that works and never try anything new!
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    when I attempted paleo, I got to where I had to eat half a jar of almond butter a day just to keep weight up. I was consuming WAY more calories on it than off it just to stay level and recomp.
    Sounds like you need to broaden your food selection some.

    Between eggs, EVCO, EVOO and meat (beef and pork especially) you can hit almost any calorie amount without "half a jar of almond butter"

  14. Quote Originally Posted by RawStrength View Post
    Sounds like you need to broaden your food selection some.

    Between eggs, EVCO, EVOO and meat (beef and pork especially) you can hit almost any calorie amount without "half a jar of almond butter"
    I'll admit part of that was that I was travelling at the time for work, so didn't have access to my normal kitchen (I work from home). So it was buying premade hard boiled eggs, and whatever I could eat that I could store in a minifridge and microwave at best. plus what I could get at restaurants, but it was still pretty limited (or got over my per diem to do )

  15. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    I'll admit part of that was that I was travelling at the time for work, so didn't have access to my normal kitchen (I work from home). So it was buying premade hard boiled eggs, and whatever I could eat that I could store in a minifridge and microwave at best. plus what I could get at restaurants, but it was still pretty limited (or got over my per diem to do )
    I know the theory behind it is... "If you want anything bad enough, you can make it work!" But, I will say this, for those that travel for a living and still stay in good to great shape... "Bless your hearts!" I don't care what anyone says, if you have never traveled and I mean traveled where you are hardly home for a day or two every two weeks and staying at hotels all the time and trying to find new gyms and limited cooking via the places you are staying and trying to stay on a budget, it can sometimes overcome how bad you want it in difficulty! I just count my lucky stars that I have pretty much always worked a job where I can take my food with me and have access to a fridge and microwave and go home every single day, enabling a set routine has always been the easiest way for me!
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  16. my travel comes and goes, but it happened to be a heavy period where I tried paleo. The plus is that when I travel, I have more time for the gym (no wife or kids)

  17. EasyEJL shared this with me in a private message and I wanted to post it for everyone in case, like me, they didn't know... Sam's club has 26oz jars of Almond Butter for $8!

    http://www.samsclub.com/sams/shop/pr...187&navAction=

    Thanks Easy!!!
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc View Post
    EasyEJL shared this with me in a private message and I wanted to post it for everyone in case, like me, they didn't know... Sam's club has 26oz jars of Almond Butter for $8!

    http://www.samsclub.com/sams/shop/pr...187&navAction=

    Thanks Easy!!!
    I get the same jar at CostCo!

  19. Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc View Post
    EasyEJL shared this with me in a private message and I wanted to post it for everyone in case, like me, they didn't know... Sam's club has 26oz jars of Almond Butter for $8!

    http://www.samsclub.com/sams/shop/pr...187&navAction=

    Thanks Easy!!!
    I have 2 sitting in my cupboard at home !
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    I have 2 sitting in my cupboard at home !
    I picked up my jar at SAM's club last night thanx to EASYEJL!!!
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