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    SO a while ago I did hdrol, and dermacrine, during which I had my face clear up incredibly.
    I have cystic acne

    During the last two weeks of pct I started to break out its been 3.5 months since and it just keeps getting worse. I have been take 200mg Docycycline 2times a day. Just started tea tree oil soap and a olive oil/cocunut moisturizer soap. I have washed my face up to 15 times a day and as little as twice, and nether seem to make a difference.

    It really went crazy on x factor advanced

    When I take DAA I get more acne however only slightly, I dont feel any rise in test, no extra libido, agression nothing like others describe with DAA. The only non supplement I take is ghrp6, could that be related?

    all products with salylic acid (proactiv) make it worse. any suggestions?


  2. Doc wont prescribe me accutane, however I know where to acquire some. I had bad reactions to it when I was 14 or 15. My liver enzmyes increased great enough that they wanted me to stop taking it, however it worked great at clearing me up despite all its side effects. If I decide to buy some and get liver vaulues from blood work what range of liver values are okay to get to before jaundice, Im willing to push it.
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  3. High doses of Vitamin B, like pantothenic acid. Now sells it cheap. NTBM also has Acnetame that is natural but effective.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by greekgeorge View Post
    SO a while ago I did hdrol, and dermacrine, during which I had my face clear up incredibly.
    I have cystic acne

    During the last two weeks of pct I started to break out its been 3.5 months since and it just keeps getting worse. I have been take 200mg Docycycline 2times a day. Just started tea tree oil soap and a olive oil/cocunut moisturizer soap. I have washed my face up to 15 times a day and as little as twice, and nether seem to make a difference.

    It really went crazy on x factor advanced

    When I take DAA I get more acne however only slightly, I dont feel any rise in test, no extra libido, agression nothing like others describe with DAA. The only non supplement I take is ghrp6, could that be related?

    all products with salylic acid (proactiv) make it worse. any suggestions?
    Hi, if this has already been mentioned or discussed, please excuse me for not reading the entire thread. I just wanted to share something that has been extremely useful and helpful for me personally, with HUGE obvious advantages in my skin tone and acne severity.

    I take 8 grams of B5 (I buy it in bulk and simply cap it, or use a teaspoon and shotgun it into my mouth) divided into 2 equal doses upon waking and before bed. This, after 1-2 months, created a dynamic shift in my acne, not only on my face but also BIG TIME on my arms, back, and shoulders. I had a very bad case of non-facial acne from anabolic usage, and it has all cleared up at least 90%! My face is far less oily, and I only experience intermittent breakouts in SMALL clusters maybe once a month now, it's amazing.

  5. Accutane
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  6. Accutane and liver support supplements to hopefully keep your liver enzymes down while on treatment.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by greekgeorge View Post
    Doc wont prescribe me accutane, however I know where to acquire some. I had bad reactions to it when I was 14 or 15. My liver enzmyes increased great enough that they wanted me to stop taking it, however it worked great at clearing me up despite all its side effects. If I decide to buy some and get liver vaulues from blood work what range of liver values are okay to get to before jaundice, Im willing to push it.
    Quote Originally Posted by hulkroids2 View Post
    Accutane
    Quote Originally Posted by CaponeCEO View Post
    Accutane and liver support supplements to hopefully keep your liver enzymes down while on treatment.
    Not trying to be rude, but don't forget to read what the OP stated (emphasis added above). He already said he tried accutane and had bad results from it so I don't think it's a good decision to jump back on that. I do think accutane is very effective, however there are also a lot of sides associated with it that the user needs to be aware of.
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by kingjameskjf View Post
    Not trying to be rude, but don't forget to read what the OP stated (emphasis added above). He already said he tried accutane and had bad results from it so I don't think it's a good decision to jump back on that. I do think accutane is very effective, however there are also a lot of sides associated with it that the user needs to be aware of.
    The sides that he got were indicative of raised liver enzymes according to his post. To counter the increased enyzmes he can try liver support supplementation. Accutane is very regulated by physicians. They will draw your blood work monthly while on it, so I would say that it is safe to try and work on the liver part of the equation in order to prep and care for it while it takes a beating from the Accutane. The other side effects of Accutane are increased risk of suicide or mental imbalances. If you haven't displayed any of those issues in the past then you would be a candidate for Accutane. So which sides are you referring to that he needs to be aware of?

    Accutane is the only thing that will work for cystic acne. I would talk to your physician and go over a game plan to get your liver as healthy as possible to get ready to try the treatment again. Your skin will develop scarring and indentation while you try to "use alternative" treatments that really don't work for your type of acne.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by CaponeCEO View Post
    ... So which sides are you referring to that he needs to be aware of?
    ....
    "More common accutane side effects may include:
    Conjunctivitis (``pinkeye''), dry or fragile skin, dry or cracked lips, dry mouth, dry nose, itching, joint pains, nosebleed

    Less common accutane side effects may include:
    Bowel inflammation and pain, chest pain, decreased night vision, decreased tolerance to contact lenses, delay in wound healing, depression, fatigue, headache, nausea, peeling palms or soles, rash, skin infections, stomach and intestinal discomfort, sunburn-sensitive skin, thinning hair, urinary discomfort, vision problems, vomiting

    Special warnings about this medication:
    When you first start taking Accutane, it is possible that your acne will get worse before it starts to get better.

    If you are a woman of childbearing age and you are considering taking Accutane, you will be given both spoken and written warnings about the importance of avoiding pregnancy during the treatment. You will be asked to sign a consent form noting that:

    - Accutane is a powerful, "last resort'' medication for severe acne;
    - You must not take Accutane if you are pregnant or may become pregnant during treatment;
    - If you get pregnant while taking Accutane, your baby will be at high risk for birth defects;
    - If you take Accutane, you must use effective birth control from 1 month before the start of treatment through 1 month after the end of treatment;
    - You must test negative for pregnancy within 2 weeks before starting Accutane, and you must start Accutane on the second or third day of your menstrual period;
    - You may participate in a program that includes an initial free pregnancy test and birth control counseling session;
    - If you become pregnant, you must immediately stop taking Accutane and see your doctor;
    - You have read and understood the Accutane patient brochure and asked your doctor any questions you had;
    - You are not currently pregnant and do not plan to become pregnant for at least 30 days after you finish taking Accutane; |
    - You have been invited to participate in a survey of women being treated with Accutane.

    Some people taking Accutane, including some who simultaneously took tetracycline, have experienced headache, nausea, and visual disturbances caused by increased pressure within the skull. See a doctor immediately if you have these symptoms; if the doctor finds swelling of the optic nerve at the back of your eye, you must stop taking Accutane at once and see a neurologist for further care.

    Be careful driving at night. Some people have experienced a sudden decrease in night vision.

    Some people taking Accutane have had problems regulating their blood sugar level.

    You may not be able to tolerate your contact lenses during and after your therapy with Accutane.

    You should stop taking Accutane immediately if you have abdominal pain, bleeding from the rectum, or severe diarrhea. You may have an inflammatory disease of the bowel.

    You should not donate blood during your therapy with Accutane and for a month after you stop taking it.
    "
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  10. hey guys, reporting back. A long time ago herbal soaps I used in the same fashion as otc products as in cleanser and moisturizer worked well, cleared up on cycle acne. I stupidly did not make note of the brand. So I used them since I was waiting for a doc appointment, got tea tree oil soap, african black soap and a moisture bar with vit e olive oil, and cocunut oil, soy lechitin. The combo has been amazing, using the topical prescription gels aczone and epiduo. My acne is mostly gone, now I just need to get rid of marks, been using a exfoliator and continuing docycycline in hopes it helps fix it now that my break out is very mild. Definately getting b5 though in bulk to try and see if it stops acne from coming out period.

  11. I struggled with cystic acne as well. Unfortunatley no otc products completely got rid of it. I tried all of the anitbiotics and creams the dermatologist could throw at me and although some helped it always came back. I was put on accutane and it has been amazing although there are alot of sides. My liver values were raised enough to make the derm cut my dose in half one month. This was after the first month of treatment and i feel like it was partially because i was placed on a max dose right from the start instead of being placed on it gradually. Not to mention i just came off of 3 months of antibiotics. Anyhow, my liver did get used to it. I always drank 1 gallon plus of water daily. The acne has been gone for some time now. It was defintaley worth it. In regards to the old marks from the acne, the retinoids in the epiduo should help with that but it will take some months to do so. Good luck and feel free to pm me with any questions.

  12. PS: Along with my above post praising B5 in bulk, I am also ordering NTBM's facial cleanser very soon. I have yet to try it, so can't comment on it. Oh, also Wal-Mart carries an amazing product that is an exact knock-off of the name brand facial scrub with sacylic acid (forget spelling) and micro beads.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    PS: Along with my above post praising B5 in bulk, I am also ordering NTBM's facial cleanser very soon. I have yet to try it, so can't comment on it. Oh, also Wal-Mart carries an amazing product that is an exact knock-off of the name brand facial scrub with sacylic acid (forget spelling) and micro beads.
    I actually got that one now
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by kingjameskjf View Post
    I actually got that one now
    Yeah I love it, blackhead clearing scrub it's called. But, I'm looking for something milder to balance out the equation, and I think NTBM's product will fit the bill.

  15. Hello.Acne problem is a common problem.I have some tips to prevent from acne.
    1.Drink water a lot
    2.Vitamin B is good for skin.Try to eat vitamin B.
    3.Avoid to eat too much oily food.

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  16. Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    Yeah I love it, blackhead clearing scrub it's called. But, I'm looking for something milder to balance out the equation, and I think NTBM's product will fit the bill.
    I think NTBM's product looks really good. I might have to give it a try.
    Serious Nutrition Solutions rep

  17. Quote Originally Posted by kingjameskjf View Post
    I think NTBM's product looks really good. I might have to give it a try.
    Something I have noticed is that if I over-wash my face it can do more harm than good at times, so I believe NTBM's acne face wash will be an excellent addition to balance out the aggressive products I've been using to keep my mug looking fresh and clean!

    You want to know why I like me some NTBM so much? Because they see a hole in the market, and they FILL it in dynamic fashion. Think about it, two of the most pressing hygiene and cosmetic issues we face as men, acne and hairloss, they have attacked head on and made two fantastic products available to us!

  18. I don't know what "cystic acne" is, so I don't know if this will help but....


    Tanning bed
    Really hot hot showers

    Both of those keep my face so dry I rarely get a breakout.

    Good luck.

  19. B5 works, it reduces the amount of oil you pores secrete, and shrinks your oil glands very similar to accutane. You just have to take it consistently. Works for me at 8-10g a day. You still have to remember to wash your face....b5 will not kill the bacteria in your skin, only reduces the oil., I still break out a little if I do not do that.. I get my bulk b5 from smart powders..

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    I don't know what "cystic acne" is, so I don't know if this will help but....


    Tanning bed
    Really hot hot showers

    Both of those keep my face so dry I rarely get a breakout.

    Good luck.
    Tanning is an awesome intervention technique, and makes you look sexified at the same time. Haha, sure you could make the yada yada yada argument about skin health or cancer, but I just have never seen a case study where 10 minutes 5 times a week under some bulbs kills a human being. Anyway, as far as hot showers, that does dry the skin out, but it's harmful to hair health, and also dries out the skin systemically.

    Quote Originally Posted by flash89912 View Post
    B5 works, it reduces the amount of oil you pores secrete, and shrinks your oil glands very similar to accutane. You just have to take it consistently. Works for me at 8-10g a day. You still have to remember to wash your face....b5 will not kill the bacteria in your skin, only reduces the oil., I still break out a little if I do not do that.. I get my bulk b5 from smart powders..
    B5 has been the most useful otc tool in combating acne I've ever used. I buy a kilo at a time. Also, Accutane is very effective, which I get through my source, but of course can disclose anything more about that.

    I am DEFINITELY adding in NTBM's acne face wash next month as well!

  21. Hmmm. I've never heard that hot showers are bad for the hair. Maybe that's why I'm getting thin up top. haha.

  22. If you want to try accutane, get yourself some Liver Longer or Ursodiol to keep the liver safe. Also, if you pick up Liv52 (the hard coated caps directly from India and not the local gel cap stuff) this was proven to lower liver enzymes.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by greekgeorge View Post
    SO a while ago I did hdrol, and dermacrine, during which I had my face clear up incredibly.
    This is really interesting to me, since hdrol is slightly androgenic and dermacrine is definitely androgenic. The only thing I can think of, is overall your DHT was lowered on cycle, and the repetitive usage of the prohormones, taken daily, caused a steady balance of hormones in your system... and that's a good reason why your acne may have been held at bay.

    Epistane had cleared me up completely in the past before. Weird how that is. I am/was on TRT as well, but once starting it, got cleared up fairly quickly.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Hmmm. I've never heard that hot showers are bad for the hair. Maybe that's why I'm getting thin up top. haha.
    I just know it is advocated on hair literature for men, even right on the Minoxidil information to stop the progression of male pattern baldness when using a hair regrowth treatment. Ever since I read that, I won't let hot shower water touch my hair, haha

  25. i would shy away from the accutane.. especially now they are finding it causes so many intestinal issues (crohns for one)...

    B5 for the win!
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