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    Very skinny , but still a little chub?


    Hey I'm about 5'9 150 - pretty skinny, but yet i still hold a decent amount of fat in my stomach especially the lower abs.....any idea why this woudl be? I drinka decent amount of diet soda, is that a possibility?

    I have also recently heard about corisol maybe having this effect....any chance that could be a possiblity? i dunno its jsut worrying me cuz im tryin to builk up and im skinny mostly everywhere else but there so its liek i wanna do cardio to burn it off but I wana get bigger.....

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    I get a little chub in the morning
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    Quote Originally Posted by heckler7 View Post
    I get a little chub in the morning
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    What is your diet/training like? Examine that first. If you are worried about cort you could just take vit. c tabs.
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    Diet sodas still spike your insulin, and if you combine that with any type of carb it will signal your body to store fat, and your lower abdomen is the last reserve tank in your body where fat will be lost usually, for women its the side of the hips, force your body to use that fat up w cardio, stay loaded with bcaa and fish oils to prevent muscle loss and ending up with a higher fat to muscle ratio thus working against your goal instead of progressing. Stay on water if you can. G luck.
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    thanks! gonna have to try and cut m diet soda habit i guess :-(.......... how much cardio and what kind would u recomend cuz im tryn to bulk but wanna burn that fat
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeswimlive View Post
    What is your diet/training like? Examine that first. If you are worried about cort you could just take vit. c tabs.

    i eat around 300g protein 300g carbs 100g fat a day....still not gaining but still have that littl chub, so i dunno....worout 5 days a week....off days usually do sum cardio
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    if you had that before you started bulking, then I wouldn't worry about it for now, work on adding muscle and once you have a decent base and are in the 170s range then go for cutting the fat. Trying to do both at once will mean you do a crappy job of both.
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    Being skinny does not mean having low body fat. Just because your 150 does not mean your sub 9%.

    I would Just lean bulk in your situation.
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    alipers get me at around 6 or less actually....those dumb handheld things say like 7.5%
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    Looks like your body just likes to hold fat there. I am the same way with lower abs. Putting more muscle on will Counter this. Clean bulk and stay in low bf while putting a few lbs on.

    Genetics are a bitch my friend, 7%bf is low and even just a few more pounds of muscle will be very noticeable.
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    yea......it stinks haha , id rather be biggerwith jsut a little bit of abs then completely ripped but only 150 right now anyways lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artdawg View Post
    Diet sodas still spike your insulin, and if you combine that with any type of carb it will signal your body to store fat, and your lower abdomen is the last reserve tank in your body where fat will be lost usually, for women its the side of the hips, force your body to use that fat up w cardio, stay loaded with bcaa and fish oils to prevent muscle loss and ending up with a higher fat to muscle ratio thus working against your goal instead of progressing. Stay on water if you can. G luck.
    do you have a reference for the inpact on glycemia?

    havent seen one... maybe i didnt search hard enough
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    i have the same problem. im lean everywhere else (size i am happy with for now) but i have a bloated look to my stomach. this is what Im doing and im seeing some progress.

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    Im training as if im bulking, but my diet is very lean with high protein, little carb intake at night.

    cardio is about 4x a week in forms of sprints, stairmaster, jump rope, punching bag. if this mild cut does not get my stomach to where it was two years ago, then i will go on an all out cut with cardio 6x a week and longer duration of it as well. i cant really change my diet. its perfect right now. very lean, high protein foods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ssbackwards View Post
    do you have a reference for the inpact on glycemia?

    havent seen one... maybe i didnt search hard enough
    I've seen literature supporting that, but it only happens to cause insulin spikes in 25% of people more or less, not everyone.
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    ^^ yeah i've seen claims that artifical sweeteners will spike insulin in some people...

    wish i knew if i was one of them! love me some stevia, splenda, etc etc.
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    yea... i cant have my oatmeal without sum splenda! YUM!!!look forward to it every morning



    Im trying t bulk though so I wanna do cardio to liek try to move that fat from my stomach but at the same tiem i wanna get bigger.....what im doin right now is lifitn 5 days and doin liek 30 min cardio at around 120-140 bpm heart rate so little lower intensity on off days......how does that sound?
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    ive also been doin like no carbs on off days since im doin cardio in hope of brrning the fat.... i replace all carb calories with fat....healthy fats of course (eggs, oil)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post
    yea... i cant have my oatmeal without sum splenda! YUM!!!look forward to it every morning



    Im trying t bulk though so I wanna do cardio to liek try to move that fat from my stomach but at the same tiem i wanna get bigger.....what im doin right now is lifitn 5 days and doin liek 30 min cardio at around 120-140 bpm heart rate so little lower intensity on off days......how does that sound?
    it sounds like you aren't going to bulk very fast, or lose the fat very fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post
    alipers get me at around 6 or less actually....those dumb handheld things say like 7.5%
    damn, your crack skinny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    it sounds like you aren't going to bulk very fast, or lose the fat very fast.
    y woudl i not lose the fat?

    I could see why u woudl say i wouln get big very fast cuz im doing cardio ( im guessing) but y not lose the fat? I dont wanna get real big real fast cuz of summer, but i still thnk I can steadily bulk up...or no?
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    Cals in vs. Cals out my friend. If you want to gain muscle you need to be in a surplus and to loose fat you must be in a deficit. Hard to eat to much and to little at the same time.

    Recomp imho means lean bulk. Put muscle on slow but with no fat and after a while you just cut a little bit. It's hard to clean bulk diet wise though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post
    y woudl i not lose the fat?

    I could see why u woudl say i wouln get big very fast cuz im doing cardio ( im guessing) but y not lose the fat? I dont wanna get real big real fast cuz of summer, but i still thnk I can steadily bulk up...or no?
    you can flip flop back and forth a week at a time between cutting + bulking if you want, but it will be slow. if you are still in your first 6 months of training you might be able to add some muscle while losing fat but otherwise its very difficult, and very slow. so pick one goal or the other - a certain bodyfat or a certain size, get to that goal, then work on the other.in your shoes, i'd go for a lean light bulk rather than losing bodyfat as adding some muscle will make it easier to get rid of the fat later.
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    yea.... like i said earlier id rather be 170 with a lil chub right now anyways
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    Quote Originally Posted by MM11 View Post
    Cals in vs. Cals out my friend. If you want to gain muscle you need to be in a surplus and to loose fat you must be in a deficit. Hard to eat to much and to little at the same time.

    Recomp imho means lean bulk. Put muscle on slow but with no fat and after a while you just cut a little bit. It's hard to clean bulk diet wise though.
    not tru, Check out the movie FATHEAD ... its on netflix. he disproves that theory pretty diligently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ssbackwards View Post
    not tru, Check out the movie FATHEAD ... its on netflix. he disproves that theory pretty diligently.
    Except not scientificly,so meaningless. A nutitionist proved you could lose fat on an all twinkie diet too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    Except not scientificly,so meaningless. A nutitionist proved you could lose fat on an all twinkie diet too.
    was it a controlled study no.. but was it meaningless definetly not.

    i ate above maintenance on my diet and dropped bodyfat. did i prove it scientifically no. meaningless? not to me.

    you can only prove nutrition scientifically when applied to you IMO
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    Body fat can be droped % wise by adding more muscle than fat. If you gain 10 lbs of muscle and no fat but have not lost any fat. The percent of fat on your body is lower even though it is the same amount. I hope I said that clear enough. Also I am taking about losing fat not losing weight they are not the same.

    I saw a woman lose something like 50 lbs on the taco bell diet. It does not mean eating tacobell will help with weight loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MM11 View Post
    Body fat can be droped % wise by adding more muscle than fat. If you gain 10 lbs of muscle and no fat but have not lost any fat. The percent of fat on your body is lower even though it is the same amount. I hope I said that clear enough. Also I am taking about losing fat not losing weight they are not the same.

    I saw a woman lose something like 50 lbs on the taco bell diet. It does not mean eating tacobell will help with weight loss.
    then technically if

    180 lbs with 10%bodyfat 18 lbs fat

    172 LBM

    gain 20 lbs... 200 lbs 10% bodyfat

    180 lbm but added 2 lbs bodyfat and 8 lbs muscle

    by staying the same bodyfat you technically add bodyfat. to be technical mathematically

    all im saying is it doesnt always pan out that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ssbackwards View Post
    was it a controlled study no.. but was it meaningless definetly not.

    i ate above maintenance on my diet and dropped bodyfat. did i prove it scientifically no. meaningless? not to me.

    you can only prove nutrition scientifically when applied to you IMO

    and how did u do that exactly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    I've seen literature supporting that, but it only happens to cause insulin spikes in 25% of people more or less, not everyone.
    It's probably linked to the fact that part of the body's response to food is reliant on your taste buds, and adding to that a lot of artificial sweeteners are complexed with real carbs can also enhance this otherwise basal insulin response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ssbackwards View Post
    then technically if

    180 lbs with 10%bodyfat 18 lbs fat

    172 LBM

    gain 20 lbs... 200 lbs 10% bodyfat

    180 lbm but added 2 lbs bodyfat and 8 lbs muscle

    by staying the same bodyfat you technically add bodyfat. to be technical mathematically

    all im saying is it doesnt always pan out that way.
    In his scenario you don't add fat mass. So LBM increases, bodyfat LBs stay constant, and LBM/fat increases, meaning bf% decreases. So your math doesn't apply.
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    ^ toro is correct. I was trying to word it in a way easily understood. It looks like I didn't.

    Your math was not wrong just not the same point I am making. I am talking about no fat gain and lowering fat percent by adding more body mass. The actual amount of
    Fat would not change. Mind you the mass gain would come much slower if the goal was 0 fat gain.
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    bro, follow my log. i just answered ur question in it cause im doing the same thing and its working for me pretty darn well. go check it out
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    bro, follow my log. i just answered ur question in it cause im doing the same thing and its working for me pretty darn well. go check it out

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    read my intro. you will be shocked to see im doing exactly what u want to do and its working. i dont care if ppl say u cant do it or you wont bulk or cut cause im doing it and i have scales and BF calipers for proof

    btw, did u get ur samples?
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    read my intro. you will be shocked to see im doing exactly what u want to do and its working. i dont care if ppl say u cant do it or you wont bulk or cut cause im doing it and i have scales and BF calipers for proof

    btw, did u get ur samples?
    strength going up doesn't equal getting bigger. in your log you say you've lost a few pounds, which isn't what he wants to do. he wants to lose the fat while gaining pounds on the scale.
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    read my intro. you will be shocked to see im doing exactly what u want to do and its working. i dont care if ppl say u cant do it or you wont bulk or cut cause im doing it and i have scales and BF calipers for proof

    btw, did u get ur samples?

    no I have no received them yet.......have they been shipped?
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    5'9 at 150lbs? And you want to lose fat?
    Bro just add 20lbs then come back to losing fat. There is no point in trying to lose fat at 150lbs. Im 5'9 at 190 and i wanna reach 210-220 before i cut again.
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    Easy said it well. I cut about 20 lbs since Jan but some of my lifts went up. I know I did not gain muscle but look and feel great! Remember strength and mass ate not the same.
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