Experiences with Intermittent Fasting
- 03-18-2011, 02:48 PM
I guess for me, since I never bought into any of the 6-8 meals a day nonsense my eating patterns were already like that. I train fasted from 7-8am, and either have a shake by 8:30-9 or sometimes a solid meal. If a shake, followed by something solid within an hour or two. And pretty much last meal of the day is at 6ish. and then nothing till the following morning after training. so to me "normal" eating is a 14+ hour fasting anyhow.
More of the studies were on non-resistance trained people, I think there was one or two. From memory, since it was a couple years back when I looked at it, the more significant biological marker changes started at 18 hours fasted and improved all the way out to 40 hours fasted. Growth hormone levels and insulin resistance primarily from what I recall.
- 03-18-2011, 04:47 PM
I've been trying to do the IF approach for a while now. My work/kid schedule sometimes gets in the way but most of the time I can just get up in the morning and not worry about breakfast or lunch and then come home a lift and really really plow some food away in my 6 or 7 hour window. I've actually gotten use to working out in a fasted state and enjoy it now (cuz I know there is gonna be a 6 egg omelet on the other side)
you guys follow http://www.leangains.com/ at all? I'm considering becoming one of his clients to help me lay out the IF program a little better. 2 words - protein fluff!
- 03-18-2011, 07:19 PM
Yea dude, Martin is the man. He and Alan Aragon are at the top of the pyramid as far as i'm concerned.
I haven't tried protein fluff but I did buy some Syntrax Micelar Creme to make pudding with. Pretty bomb and cheaper than the packets from vitamin shoppe.
I was referring to the 16 hour fast. I have no interest in alternate day fasting or anything like that. I am attracted to the 16 hour thing because it will allow me more flexibility in my meals (i.e. huge steak with avocado instead of a modest portion of chicken breast) and I will probably get to sleep in more because I'm not eating breakfast. I still don't know if I am going to go that way though.
This thread is hot. I think it is the first one i've made that got to two pages.
03-21-2011, 09:55 PM
I'm giving it a try. Day 2 right now. I've been throwing down caffeine in the morning to max my sympathetic tone so I can be focused and not hungry.
The 8 hour feeding phase is awesome. I've basically been eating large servings of meat with some sort of fat (avocado, olive oil, coconut oil, eggs etc.) The possibilities are endless when you are shooting for a 900 calorie meal.
I have a grass finished brisket cooking in the oven as I type.
In other words, so far so good.
03-22-2011, 01:01 AM
This is definitely my favorite 'diet' so far.
Getting leaner while eating papa johns pizza and sonic!
For me, the action IS the juice.
03-22-2011, 07:59 AM
I never tried it while eating very dirty, but I did notice fairly quick changes while eating clean.
03-22-2011, 05:24 PM
03-22-2011, 09:03 PM
Yea, I'm not eating a ton of cals right now but I could go lower. Satiety is definitely a strong point.
03-22-2011, 09:19 PM
03-23-2011, 07:16 AM
What do your lifting routines look like? I think Martin's is low rep/heavy weights, and it looks like they are keeping it to 3x per week. The only cardio that I can glean from the blog appears to be walking.
I am just having an issue with my workout not always being at the same time. Sometimes the only time I have to lift is first thing in the morning and sometimes I have to wait until the kids are in bed, the fasting until after I lift isn't really jiving with that.
Food wise I am all over the map. In the past I have responded real well to CKD type diets, but for this I am trying more of a paleo style diet because its nice to have some fruit ever once in a while. Then there are the days when I totally blow it and eat everything that moves
03-23-2011, 09:32 PM
so if im trying to bulk the idea is that i fast for 16 hours...including sleep, and then try to get in my 3300 cals or so within the remaining 8 hours, no matter how i do it, fat, carbs etc. (obv. keeping protein high) ?
03-24-2011, 07:28 AM
I did try the not eating for 24 hours once, but just once - not enough to give it a judgement either way. I usually stick to a 16/8 or 18/6 fast/feed.
03-24-2011, 09:10 AM
but the idea is to get all ur cals (3300 or so in my case) in this 6/8 hour window? als what about types of food, is it ok to mix up fat rotein carbs and maybe sum junk in there too or is the idea t just do fats and prtein or protein and carbs at certain times
03-24-2011, 09:15 AM
Overall its just making sure you still the get the calories and your general macro goals in, so if you are shooting for 200g protein and 80g healthy fats, so long as you get those its not entirely critical where the rest come from. Sure avoid high fructose corn syrup, but outside of that....
03-24-2011, 01:38 PM
hmmm i might try the 16/8 idea gonna take sum plannin ot in regards to wrokouts and what not though i usually work out later in teh day so im gonn ahve to look into how to do that....any sugggestions?
03-24-2011, 01:49 PM
03-24-2011, 07:28 PM
03-24-2011, 09:53 PM
This is cool, ive read this many times. Might have to try one day. Anyone eat a lot and fast once a week?
04-04-2011, 12:23 AM
I think my fat ass will have to try something along these lines.
04-04-2011, 11:35 AM
yea maybe ill jsut fast completely on an off daay and jsut eat whatever I want all day the next day......and make sure to train legs that day too lol
04-04-2011, 06:44 PM
04-04-2011, 09:14 PM
do u eat 2 days worht of cals on ur feeding days then?
04-04-2011, 09:54 PM
ive been messing with it now trying a keto diet while fasting 8/16, i had been just keto previously so i will see how this turns out.
04-05-2011, 08:11 AM
04-05-2011, 09:41 AM
gotta try that lol.....how were your energy levels though....I have a football game tomrorow and was thinking of trying it out but don't wanna be dead.....
04-05-2011, 09:47 AM
then dont start it tomorrow. After a week or two, energy levels seemed workable, but first couple of fast days will drive you crazy
04-05-2011, 10:33 AM
damn...well its onyl like flag football, i just relaly wanan be able to eat liek a pig the next day lol
04-05-2011, 11:24 AM
well, you don't really start seeing max hormonal benefits till after 3-6 weeks on it, so you want to make sure you start out successfully so that you do keep it up is all.
04-05-2011, 01:58 PM
04-06-2011, 07:38 AM
04-08-2011, 11:27 PM
this seems very doable, i may have to play with this sooner rather then later
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