F'ING FRUSTRATED!!!!!!!!!!

[BIGHIGGS]

Breif BIO.... Just turned 30, 290, 6'3" BF% approx 20-23%. Just lost 30lbs since may. goal weight is 250-260 by my wedding in OCT 2011 (def do-able). Here is my rant.....I CANT DROP ANYMORE WEIGHT. Im killing it in the gym 6 days a week, I have a great workout partner, im tracking my foods yet i cant budge on the scale for a good month or so...WTF??? someone please help.....here is a sample of a typical days nutrition.
M1- 1 cup liquid egg whites
two scoops gaspari intrapro
2 tbspn natty pb
banana
1/2 cup oatmeal.....all blended into a shake with ice
M2- 8oz chicken coated with ground oatmeal (like breadcrumbs but better) baked
cup veggies
dannon greek
M3- same as M2
M4- same as M2
M5- 1/2 cup liquid egg whites
! scoop gaspari intra pro (this is right before bed)
1 spponfull of natty pb

Im usually in the area of around 2700 cals, 80-90g fats, 170-190 carbs and 275-300 proteins. i try to keep my sodium below 1500-1700 due to threat of hypertension in the family

[TateFTW]

Drop the PB. 2700 is too many calories imo. If your true goal is cutting, then commit just to cutting and use the gym just to maintain strength. If you commit 100% to cutting, then 250 should be no big deal in a year. And if you reach it before that, just go into recomp and bring things like PB back in. Just dropping PB should remove around 300 cal/day.

Also, I've heard that people who hold more weight around the middle react better to low carb (I don't), so maybe try some carb cycling if you hold more weight in your gut. Hell, try it either way, I've heard that it worked very well for a lot of people.

[Hikeon3]

How are your pants fitting? Sometimes, you have to just screw the scale and go by the mirror/pants.

[Rodja]

Drop the PB. 2700 is too many calories imo. If your true goal is cutting, then commit just to cutting and use the gym just to maintain strength. If you commit 100% to cutting, then 250 should be no big deal in a year. And if you reach it before that, just go into recomp and bring things like PB back in. Just dropping PB should remove around 300 cal/day.

Also, I've heard that people who hold more weight around the middle react better to low carb (I don't), so maybe try some carb cycling if you hold more weight in your gut. Hell, try it either way, I've heard that it worked very well for a lot of people.

2700 is too many? I think it's way too little.

[sluggy]

2700 is too many? I think it's way too little.

For his height/weight/age? No way, 2700 is too much.

[DAdams91982]

For his height/weight/age? No way, 2700 is too much.

Holy crap... two much.... at 290?

A quick calculation shows his BMR at almost 4K using the Mifflin-St Jeor equation.

Higgs... have you introduced any cheat meals yet?

[sluggy]

Holy crap... two much.... at 290?

A quick calculation shows his BMR at almost 4K using the Mifflin-St Jeor equation.

Higgs... have you introduced any cheat meals yet?

Yeah, but he's 90% fat.. He's trying to lose it, not maintain it.
He could literally eat nothing for 3-6 months and be fine.

[Rodja]

Yeah, but he's 90% fat.. He's trying to lose it, not maintain it.
He could literally eat nothing for 3-6 months and be fine.

He has over 220 lbs of LBM. There's no way in hell 2700 kcals is too much.

[TateFTW]

That's why I only suggested dropping the PB. I don't think it's way too much, but he needs to see what will work for him. I think the first step should be a small drop in calories, just to see how his body reacts. With his extreme size it's even harder then normal to suggest numbers that will work. At this point, the only thing we're certain of is that his current routine isn't working. The first step is to make a change and see how it affects his results.

[sluggy]

He has over 220 lbs of LBM. There's no way in hell 2700 kcals is too much.

Dude, why do you keep repeating yourself. How are you calculating this?

[Rodja]

Dude, why do you keep repeating yourself. How are you calculating this?

290x.77=223.3

If you can't figure out where I got that, you shouldn't be giving out advice.

[sluggy]

290x.77=223.3

If you can't figure out where I got that, you shouldn't be giving out advice.

You're brilliant. That's obvious.. I meant in regards to your mantra of 2700 cals being too much..

[DAdams91982]

Yeah, but he's 90% fat.. He's trying to lose it, not maintain it.
He could literally eat nothing for 3-6 months and be fine.

I see his post say 20-23% body fat... nothing about 90%

Also, the BMR equation I used is not calculated on LBM, but overall weight. Dropping cals to low will in fact induce a cascade of different hormones that will thusly place the body in a starvation mode that fights to keep every last pound.

So your science on this matter is not sound. You do not drop 2300 from BMR to loose weight effectively.

[TateFTW]

It could very well be that his deficit it too large, resulting in his metabolism slowing and bringing his weight loss to a halt. If dropping a few more cals doesn't get things going, then upping cals to the 3-3500 range could be the thing to get the metabolism going again. Like I said, finding the sweet spot could be tough with such large numbers.

[sluggy]

I see his post say 20-23% body fat... nothing about 90%

Also, the BMR equation I used is not calculated on LBM, but overall weight. Dropping cals to low will in fact induce a cascade of different hormones that will thusly place the body in a starvation mode that fights to keep every last pound.

So your science on this matter is not sound. You do not drop 2300 from BMR to loose weight effectively.

Yes, it's an exaggeration.. Quite the grasp of English you've got there.

You're going by a formula that doesn't take into consideration LBM, and MY science in not sound? How about you come back with a modern equation.

It could very well be that his deficit it too large, resulting in his metabolism slowing and bringing his weight loss to a halt. If dropping a few more cals doesn't get things going, then upping cals to the 3-3500 range could be the thing to get the metabolism going again. Like I said, finding the sweet spot could be tough with such large numbers.

He's not loosing weight because his deficit is too large? Where'd you come up with this?

[DAdams91982]

Yes, it's an exaggeration.. Quite the grasp of English you've got there.

You're going by a formula that doesn't take into consideration LBM, and MY science in not sound? How about you come back with a modern equation.





He's not loosing weight because his deficit is too large? Where'd you come up with this?

Look here, obviously you do not know that to keep fat from generating aromatase, thusly converting test into estrogen, thusly causing fat gain that nutrients must be provided. And that is just ONE factor in the hormonal cascade... dont even want to get into the cortisol factor.

Mifflin-St Jeor is the highest regarded equation for caloric expenditure.

But you keep going on believing you know anything, it is quite a laugh.

/School

[sluggy]

Look here, obviously you do not know that to keep fat from generating aromatase, thusly converting test into estrogen, thusly causing fat gain that nutrients must be provided. And that is just ONE factor in the hormonal cascade... dont even want to get into the cortisol factor.

Mifflin-St Jeor is the highest regarded equation for caloric expenditure.

But you keep going on believing you know anything, it is quite a laugh.

/School

School? Thank god I didn't attend the 'school' that taught you. Fat loss is quite simple, you need to take a breath and then read a book published in the 21st century.

[DAdams91982]

School? Thank god I didn't attend the 'school' that taught you. Fat loss is quite simple, you need to take a breath and then read a book published in the 21st century.

[bdcc]

I think this thread is a perfect demonstration that you should seek out professional help. You cannot (always) trust advice online because;
1) they are giving you advice blind
2) most of whom are not qualified to do so

Best of luck

[DAdams91982]

I think this thread is a perfect demonstration that you should seek out professional help. You cannot (always) trust advice online because;
1) they are giving you advice blind
2) most of whom are not qualified to do so

Best of luck

I do like this. Especially since a lot of the "Professionals" come here for information.

Hell, Rodja is about as professional as they come, Degree and certified.