Lately in the gym...
- 06-06-2010, 12:40 PM
Lately in the gym...
Ive been feeling so weak, like lethargy weak! Not energy wise but just straight weak, sumtimes energy wise too. But then theres also those days where im just so pumped and when i start working out i burn out on like the first set. Its like my muscles are dying, not to mention for some weired reason i havent gotten sore in 6months! Idk whats wrong but ive tried everything from light weight/high reps to heavy weights/low reps, and just kill myself in the gym and i cant get sore, and when i do get the slightest bit sore its not till like a day or two later when i begin to fill it.
Its been happening since i started my daily 1000 calorie deficit, and i wanna blame it on that but i still been taking all my vitamins, protiens, etc. so it kinda cant be the cause. Im thinking ATP but idk yet, i just really wanna take care of this before i start my next cycle.. Thought?
- 06-06-2010, 01:07 PM
More food or change your workout time so you workout in the evening after you have more food in you. Maybe switch up your workouts so they are shorter depending how long your in there.
- 06-06-2010, 01:10 PM
LOL so you started a ONE THOUSAND calorie deficit when you noticed you were lacking energy... hmmmm./
And btw it doesnt matter how much protein you get, energy comes from carbs
06-06-2010, 01:20 PM
Your workout is sucking plain and simple if you can't get sore.
It is the 1000 calorie cut. Vitamins and proteins won't give you energy.
I would first change your workout because if you're not getting sore.. any supplements you buy will go to waste cuz your workout sucks. Once you get sore again, you're back on the right track and you can try some stims which I haven't tried any or get some creatine for extra ATP. That always works for me for longer harder workouts.
06-06-2010, 01:25 PM
06-06-2010, 01:28 PM
06-06-2010, 01:28 PM
And not being sore doesnt mean your workout sucks, if your progressing to your lifting goals, and your not getting sore, I wouldnt whine about it.
06-06-2010, 01:30 PM
06-06-2010, 01:49 PM
06-06-2010, 02:02 PM
06-06-2010, 02:03 PM
Vitamins and protein can absolutely have an impact on energy. Deficiencies of various B Vitamins, Vit D, E and K are all linked to fatigue. So are Zinc, Magnesium and a number of other important minerals
Insufficient protein is going to lead to insufficient recovery, which of course leaves you tired and sore.
06-06-2010, 02:04 PM
I should have said if he has little to no carbs instead of "cut carbs out of his diet" so fat and proteins can be used for workout energy.
We're strictly speaking of workout energy. I know fats and proteins can be utilized as energy for metabolic actions regardless of carb intake but we're talking about fuel for working out.
If he has those little carbs he will no doubt start using the 1000 cals of fat.
But again, I doubt he is eating that way when he says "I eat lots of protein and feel lethargic". I just wanted him to know the amount of carbs he is eating affects the usage of fats and proteins as energy sources for working out and that what he is saying "could" be flawed.
I'm betting my money on it that what he said was flawed in relation to his diet. In that, he says he is eating enough protein to not feel lethargic, yet he is eating a diet rich in carbs where he is not even using the protein as energy for working out. This makes his statement flawed and I was just correcting him.
06-06-2010, 02:13 PM
06-06-2010, 02:18 PM
06-06-2010, 02:19 PM
Common misconception not having DOMS doesnt mean you didnt have a good workout...So dont get so tied up in trying to make yourself sore if you're making progress in the gym(which you're not so I think its the sudden 1000 deficit) but constantly trying to get DOMS will usually cause you to over train... and you don't want that.
Bench - 355
Squat - 405
Deadlift - 600
06-06-2010, 02:24 PM
What would you guys think about a 500calorie deficit instead, and burnning the other 500 in cardio?
06-06-2010, 02:25 PM
06-06-2010, 02:30 PM
But besides that im definately gonna up my calorie intake with some carbs and jump on some creatine. Thanx guys.
06-06-2010, 02:30 PM
your body becomes prone to getting sore after awhile ..at least mine does after the first 2-3 weeks of working out 6 days a week .
06-06-2010, 03:02 PM
The recurring theme here is achieving the optimum energy deficit. Get 30-40% of cals from protein and the rest from fats and carbs (at least 20% each) to make up a 500 kcal deficit.
06-06-2010, 04:57 PM
What do u guys think about kre-alkalyn? Havent used creatine in a while. thought id give this one a shot, or is there any others you guys would strongly suggest? Also whats the deal with creatine and water retention? Never was able to find a clear answer on that one.
06-06-2010, 05:04 PM
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06-07-2010, 02:00 AM
06-07-2010, 04:44 AM
06-07-2010, 11:47 AM
06-07-2010, 12:22 PM
Just to add more clarafication energy comes from calories does not matter what type of calorie it is carbs offer 4 calories PROTEIN offers 4 calories and fat offers 9 calories that's why your body prefers to keep fat just in case
06-07-2010, 12:33 PM
So yesterday in the gym was a lower body day. I have some albuterol liquid vials laying around from like 3 years ago (used to have mild breathing problems) never used em and decieded to give the alb a try 5mg about 10min before cardio(vials are dosed @ 2.5mg). I gotta admit endurance was good but not the way everybody raves about it being. It was more like the same to me, only the stops in between were much shorter, like 30sec instead of 1min & 30sec, im definately not a placebo guy, everything for me either works or doesnt, or maybe i just expect too much idk..
--SO anyways on to the w/o! I know i definately worked out hard enough to be sore today, and i am! But to be honest its more like a dead sore rather then a burning sore from an intense w/o the day before, those are the kind of sorenesses i want but cant. I dont know if any of you guys cought the part where i said "i feel the soreness like 2days later", its so weired cause right now im kinda sore, but 2morrow ill be really sore. Its like my bodies behind or something.. any ways heres what my w/o looked like anyways-
35min of cardio lvl 7.2 (lvl 1-10) stopped 2x after 10min for about 30sec, then walked it out after the 30 was done. Did 390calories.
Seated leg curls 70lbs 15reps x 3sets & 90lbs 20reps x 2sets
Seated reverse leg curls 70lbs 15reps x 3sets & 90lbs 20reps x 2sets
Squats 140lbs 10reps x 3sets & 190lbs x 6reps & 225lbs 5reps x 1set
Other than this i just did a bunch of lunges for about 10min.
Overall, i know pretty F'ing weak! But to be honest i havent done lower body in like a year, i recently barely started again about a month ago. I know i can work up fast because i used to sqaut 405lbs like 2 years ago(lol i know). Ive been keeping my lower body inshape wit cardio so far. I wanted to keep working out after these sets but my legs wouldnt allow me to, i was walking like i was on a boat or i was some hardcore gangster who had to walk wit a limp. As far as the sorness goes idk know why im barely feeling it or why its taking 2 days to be sore(weired)? I know my w/o was weak, but if it killed me in the gym i should be burning right now??
Btw i had about 2,000cals yesterday w/ a carb drink before w/o. I plan to have a solid 2,000 today, my RMR is 2,306.
06-07-2010, 01:42 PM
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