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    anyone have any info on what George farah does for these guys to be so dense and low BF into shows with a ton of food???

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    Quote Originally Posted by JN230 View Post
    anyone have any info on what George farah does for these guys to be so dense and low BF into shows with a ton of food???
    Yes. Without giving away any sensitive information that he charges his clients for I can tell you his philosophy. THERMIC EFFECT OF FOOD. He likes to get his client's metabolisms RED hot with high protein and carb intake and volume training. He usually then slow tapers the carbs down to provide for body-fat loss as the contest prep continues. This method is quite effective for those who's body's can work well with it. I too believe it is important not to dive carbs too low until the end in order to keep one's metabolism up. Protein intake remains high and vegetable/fiber intake remains high to maintain thermogenesis. Most people would find themselves over-trained if they trained the way Farah generally advocates. I prefer a more high intensity style of training and my clients (in general) have more success with this. Many of my clients prefer not to use AAS and thus their recovery ability is limited (especially in a calorie deficit). That's why its important to keep the calories as high as possible and the metabolism as high as possible for as long as possible. If you do this, making small changes like removing 50g carbs every week or two and slightly increasing protein will yield a pretty significant reduction in body-fat.

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    Good read.
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    damn! thnak you very much taht was my thought on what he did very high carbs very low fat to keep insulin levels high to provide anti catabolic effect but not having the fats to draw in and store because insulin is very high!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JN230 View Post
    damn! thnak you very much taht was my thought on what he did very high carbs very low fat to keep insulin levels high to provide anti catabolic effect but not having the fats to draw in and store because insulin is very high!
    He advocates the use of complex starchy carbohydrates for the purpose of keeping insulin levels moderate to low. High insulin literally causes an enzymatic process that inhibits fat loss (lipolysis). The purpose of keeping carbohydrates high is to keep the metabolism high. Having some simpler carbs around a workout to stimulate a little extra insulin secretion isn't a bad thing necessarily, but for the most part complex starchy carbs are the way to go when trying to loose bodyfat.

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    very true but i do know he advocates frit correct? which is typically Higher GI than Oat and such, but im not sure when, it could very well be around workout times...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JN230 View Post
    very true but i do know he advocates frit correct? which is typically Higher GI than Oat and such, but im not sure when, it could very well be around workout times...
    In earlier parts of the diet sure, but more likely in the off season. Fruit is a great source of fiber and phyto-nutrients and most fruit (dark skinned fruit at least) is low GI due to its fructose content. Remember, fructose is processed MUCH differently than glucose.

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    The GI is such a flawed measurement of carbs. Why anyone really cares about the GI of a specific food is beyond me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    The GI is such a flawed measurement of carbs. Why anyone really cares about the GI of a specific food is beyond me.
    it is relevant. However total glycemic load of a meal is more relevant. Without the individual GI's of each food comprising your meal it would be hard to qualitatively measure the glycemic load of a meal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fitnessbyalex View Post
    it is relevant. However total glycemic load of a meal is more relevant. Without the individual GI's of each food comprising your meal it would be hard to qualitatively measure the glycemic load of a meal.

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    However, the insulin levels released is very dependent upon the other macronutrient consumed at that time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fitnessbyalex View Post
    In earlier parts of the diet sure, but more likely in the off season. Fruit is a great source of fiber and phyto-nutrients and most fruit (dark skinned fruit at least) is low GI due to its fructose content. Remember, fructose is processed MUCH differently than glucose.

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    that is true as i have seen studies that is more likely to be stored as adipose tissue than used as glycogen because it actually becomes fat before it is then turned into glycogen. so i stay away from fruit
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    Quote Originally Posted by JN230 View Post
    that is true as i have seen studies that is more likely to be stored as adipose tissue than used as glycogen because it actually becomes fat before it is then turned into glycogen. so i stay away from fruit
    I think you're using high-fructose corn syrup and fructose interchangeably when they are VERY different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    However, the insulin levels released is very dependent upon the other macronutrient consumed at that time.
    That is exactly what my last post said :]

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    Quote Originally Posted by JN230 View Post
    that is true as i have seen studies that is more likely to be stored as adipose tissue than used as glycogen because it actually becomes fat before it is then turned into glycogen. so i stay away from fruit
    Fruit is not conducive to fat loss. I do not avoid it entirely. I'll add maybe 1/4 cup of wild blueberries to my oats/grits in the morning when I'm not getting ready for a contest or photo-shoot. For the most part I would avoid it and get your phytontrients, vits, mins etc from greens and even a fruit phytontrient supplement if you like.

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    ypu yup great advice here! you're one smart guy whats your background in nutrition?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JN230 View Post
    ypu yup great advice here! you're one smart guy whats your background in nutrition?

    Thanks brother!

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    nice, ill have my BA in Nutritoin and food this summer from CSUS, nothing special tho
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    Quote Originally Posted by JN230 View Post
    nice, ill have my BA in Nutritoin and food this summer from CSUS, nothing special tho
    Any credentials will help you brother! In the end it comes down to experience and learning by doing. A BA in Nutrition is great. Keep at it!

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    Far more important than having a piece of paper is having both scientific knowledge and how to apply that knowledge. By and large, many nutritionists are years and years behind because they are far too dogmatic on many subjects. Empirical data is wonderful, but a lack thereof does not equate to it not being somewhat truthful. I have no formal degree in nutrition, but I have taken several graduate level classes and their knowledge is staggeringly old, especially in the sports nutrition area (their protein requirements are beyond hilarious).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Far more important than having a piece of paper is having both scientific knowledge and how to apply that knowledge. By and large, many nutritionists are years and years behind because they are far too dogmatic on many subjects. Empirical data is wonderful, but a lack thereof does not equate to it not being somewhat truthful. I have no formal degree in nutrition, but I have taken several graduate level classes and their knowledge is staggeringly old, especially in the sports nutrition area (their protein requirements are beyond hilarious).
    I agree with you. It is frustrating to sit and listen to the sometimes utter-nonsense they teach in nutrition programs, even at the graduate level. Real world experience and results are what truly matters. The Credentials just act as a cushion to remove people's doubt in one's knowledge and understanding of certain subjects.

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