soft drinks tax
- 03-13-2010, 12:44 PM
- 03-13-2010, 01:54 PM
I'm not sure if they passed it yet but I heard about the soda tax. Doesn't affect me because soda is a waste of money anyways. I didn't hear about them trying to tax everything with fat in it. That would be rediculous. I did hear something about all junk foods though. It's just another way for our government to try and control us. If junk food is more expensive then healthy foods everyone will eat healthy. Right now healthy foods are more expensive than junk foods obviously. Our country is broke so we eat to survive not to be healthy.
- 03-13-2010, 02:37 PM
Conceptually I think that a junk food tax is a great idea. Companies that make that sh!t profit from externalizing the health costs to other sectors. They are no different than tobacco companies. Of course the proof would be in the implementation...
03-13-2010, 02:45 PM
03-13-2010, 02:52 PM
I sure hope they leave out the meats (non fast food meats that is*)
I am already so broke I gotta eat the ground turkey, I was hoping one day I would be able to actually eat beef but if they tax the beef then I guess not....
I personally say tax and regulate all that fat/junk food and leave our supplements the FU(|< alone!
03-13-2010, 03:29 PM
03-13-2010, 03:31 PM
03-13-2010, 03:39 PM
i'm all for a junk food tax and a soda tax. those items s/b for occasional consumption not everyday, every meal. look around you guys....go to Wal-Mart and sit and watch if you don't believe me. and what's worse is we're teaching our kids to eat like this too, maybe not telling them to eat like $hit but if we are wtf do you think they will do.
nitrox has the right idea, how is it any different from tobacco? alcohol? and who the hell is anyone to say that it won't kill you all the same. if you want to drink and smoke and eat like crap the end result will be higher insurance rates for all. why should i have to foot your bad habit bill. and these people sit around and say "it's not hurting anyone" the f**k it's not son!
if the end result is lower insurance rates and cheaper good food, then i say this is one thing the Obama might do right.
03-13-2010, 03:52 PM
03-13-2010, 03:57 PM
I think our forefathers would agree, that people have a right to eat whatever garbage they want to. We are supposed to live in a free country aren't we?
03-13-2010, 04:23 PM
03-13-2010, 04:35 PM
No system is perfect but the government has to draw lines somewhere. Lennoxchi is right; you can pay a little now and/or shift the expense to those who consume junk food or you can pay more later through increased health insurance (or in my case higher taxes for public health care in Canada).
03-13-2010, 05:03 PM
03-13-2010, 05:03 PM
03-13-2010, 05:08 PM
Look you guys, one of the main reasons I've worried if because unlike a lot of you I still live at home and I'm a college student. I just hope when I go to move out I don't have to pay a **** load of taxes for food.
03-13-2010, 05:11 PM
I agree junk food tax is a great idea. It should be taxed as tobacco and alcohol is taxed. My main question to ask is where the line will be drawn. What will be considered junk food? High in fats and sugars? Gatorades are high in sugar, will that be taxed?
I can careless about soda. I have not drank a soda in almost four years, no big loss there.
03-13-2010, 05:13 PM
03-13-2010, 05:16 PM
03-13-2010, 05:26 PM
Guys, milk does not have a lot of fat. Whole milk has approx 4% and skim milk has none...
EDIT (pressed enter too soon): Foods such as soda, chips, and candy are clearly candidates for a junk food tax. I don't think that there are many people who would consider milk or unprocessed meats as such.
03-13-2010, 05:40 PM
03-14-2010, 12:21 PM
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."
03-14-2010, 01:04 PM
if the government drew the line at taxing sodas, fast food, anything with HFCS or trans-fat i wouldn't pay more in taxes
i think the government isn't going to attack anything vaguely healthy, and here's why. a socialized health care system will work, and will be cheaper (via prevention) than the medicare system we have in place. by taxing the products directly related to some of those issues (obesity, diabetes) the people who get those ailments will be being directly taxed for getting it, without them knowing. genius
since medical MJ is cheaper and sometimes more effective than prescription meds, you're also seeing more states trying to approve it. this goes along with the socialized medicine theory - if we're not using most effective (from cost vs. sides aspect) treatment methods, we'll get bankrupt fast.
03-14-2010, 01:09 PM
Isnt this tax just a cash grab? The taxes are high for smokes and alchohol like some of you mentioned but has that reduced there consumption? I think the answer is no.
I think this is one of those things that are better in theory than in practice.
03-14-2010, 01:11 PM
03-14-2010, 01:15 PM
fact : if you're hispanic, you are 33% more likely to get diabetes.
i can't count the times i've been to wall-mart to pick up something for my house and seen an obese hispanic mom with their obese 8 year old buying ho-ho's and sodas.
03-14-2010, 04:28 PM
yo don't forget that chorizo they eat that in everything!
03-14-2010, 05:52 PM
(fat)People would still buy the soda, they would just be even more broke. You can't force a mass of people to not do something by simply putting a tax on said activity. Soda taxes would go down, but the loss sales would be coming from people that are perfectly healthy and drink the occasional soda.
03-14-2010, 11:24 PM
the biggest problem with these kinds of taxes, is that it leads towards socialized medicine, which i do think is a very important thing. here's the problem : socialized medicine spells the downfall of any supplement the FDA wants to target under the guise of "protecting" us. like for example, prohormones, proprietary blends, etc, which will make companies scared of researching new things that may be banned before the company can make its money back.
from a bodybuilding perspective, socialized medicine sucks. if you think medical MJ is a great thing though, or like canada's health care, its a great system to have in place.
03-14-2010, 11:39 PM
Anybody heard about a NY state ban on salt in restaurants? Neil Boortz was talking about it on NPR radio station friday morning.
03-14-2010, 11:49 PM
03-15-2010, 03:25 AM
They raised the price of smokes here about 5 times at least in the last decade. No one quit, they just pay more. People will still eat like crap.
03-15-2010, 05:12 AM
03-15-2010, 06:19 AM
i personally dont think taxing unhealthy foods would do anything other than make them more money. If people are willing to pay upwards of $4 per gallon of gas whenever they feel its necessary to raise it that high, an extra 35 cents isnt gonna sway anyone from a bag of dorritos.
03-16-2010, 09:32 AM
Govt: "Hey, we're raising everyone's taxes"
Ppl: "No...noo...no.. no new taxes."
Govt: "Hey, we're going to tax soda and junk foods to help fight obesity."
Ppl: "Well, that sounds like a good idea."
It's the same end result because it's not going to stop anyone from still buying the soda or junk food.
I think it was Europe that gives discounts on health insurance for healthy people. We should have something along those lines. I for example am much much much more healthy now than I was this time last year. Has my insurance gone down? No, to the contrary it's gone up just like it does every year. I mean besides the obvious personal benefit there is no monetary benefit for a person to be healthy. If you told people, lose weight and save $200/mo on insurance I bet more people would jump at the chance.
We as a country are more reactive then proactive unfortunately.
03-16-2010, 09:48 AM
So if they tax junk food, how about discounting organic foods?
03-16-2010, 09:51 AM
Reward instead of punish- seems like the more taxes we get, the less the dollar is worth.
03-16-2010, 09:58 AM
NYS is only implementing a soda tax. They're hoping this would help fight against obesity (there is no nutritional value in soda whatsoever) and the taxes from soft drink purchases would be used to help fund state health programs. I agree with it. I wish NYS would do what the Governator did in California; get rid of all junk food and soda machines in public schools, and critique the nutritional value of the school menu.
03-16-2010, 09:58 AM
03-19-2010, 11:50 AM
Holy ****... how can any American be for this type of crap? An unequal tax on any food because of it's type is an abuse of power and grossly ignorant to the envisionment for America. Would you allow the government regulate who you can or cannot date, what type of house you are allowed to buy, car you can drive?
WTF, it is a sad day when the lemmings are buying into this ****. Time to go set up my cottage in Antarctica and just wait for that Global Warming to start kicking in.
But seriously.. Government is the answer?
The Historic PES Legend
03-19-2010, 12:01 PM
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