How do you consume your eggs? Raw or Cooked?
- 01-24-2010, 06:44 PM
- 01-24-2010, 06:45 PM
I eat them either bolied or raw blended with OJ, if you eat them raw make sure you get pastureized eggs.
- 01-24-2010, 06:49 PM
Sometimes I mix a raw egg or 2 with one scoop of protein, some whole milk, vanilla ice cream and chocolate syrup. Tastes great and has all the calories and protein you could want; a good combo of whey and casien from the milk...
01-24-2010, 06:57 PM
01-24-2010, 07:30 PM
Bioavailability of protein in raw eggs
The article states: "the protein in raw eggs is only 51% bio-available, whereas that of a cooked egg is nearer 91% bio-available."
The study it cites was done with subjects that had a ileostomy, their large intestine and colon had been removed. This is not the case for the majority of people reading the article and doesn't reflect the bioavailability of protein in the general population. The statement should be removed as it is misleading.
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That being said it looks like it would be safe to use pasteurized eggs? Now the question is the price / if the store has it? I am going to be starting a M-drol / X-tren cycle next month and need to get a large amount of eggs each day to help with my lipid levels to keep cholesterol up where it needs to be. It takes me time each morning to build up an appetite for breakfast and was thinking that drinking the eggs raw would be an easier alternative.
01-24-2010, 08:14 PM
Not the study I meant.
Healthy subjects. 30% More egg protein absorbed when cooked.
01-24-2010, 08:40 PM
01-24-2010, 08:44 PM
Only the second study.
From the first:
Ten healthy volunteers were studied once after ingestion of a cooked test meal, consisting of 25 g of (13)C-, (15)N-, and (2)H-labeled egg protein, and once after ingestion of the same but raw meal. Amounts of 5.73% and 35.10% (P < 0.005) of cooked and raw test meal, respectively, escaped digestion and absorption in the small intestine. A significantly higher percentage of the malabsorbed raw egg protein was recovered in urine as fermentation metabolites.
Edit: From the methods: Ten volunteers (5 females and 5 males, mean age 27 yr, range of 21-37 yr) participated. None of the subjects had a history of gastrointestinal or metabolic disease or previous surgery (apart from appendectomy). The subjects had no gastrointestinal complaints and were free of antibiotics or any other medical treatment for at least 3 mo before the start of the study. The study was approved by the Ethical Committee of the University of Leuven, and all subjects gave informed consent.
01-24-2010, 08:49 PM
I have answered my own question, thanks to Resolve. I came across a bunch of sites with information while I was looking for the bioavailability information.
01-24-2010, 09:13 PM
01-24-2010, 09:32 PM
01-24-2010, 09:39 PM
Only receiving 50% or the protein would be a waste if this were the case, but as of right now I am going with until proven otherwise. Anyone can write a page saying such beliefs but the truth is proven with scientific numbers to show what is absorbed and what is not.
01-24-2010, 09:55 PM
The first study is valid on it's own. If definite numbers in healthy subjects don't convince you, I don't know what else to tell you man.
Edit: I answered this: "the truth is proven with scientific numbers to show what is absorbed and what is not." here: "Amounts of 5.73% and 35.10% (P < 0.005) of cooked and raw test meal, respectively, escaped digestion and absorption in the small intestine." That's in healthy people!
01-24-2010, 10:43 PM
01-24-2010, 11:12 PM
01-24-2010, 11:21 PM
The first link;
Is normal healthy people. This is the one I am referring to, that has no backing of information nor does it make the numbers clear.
The second one;
Is for ileostomy patients. So this does not apply to most people!
The second link has very good information but is not conclusive for someone who has a healthy digestive system. Hopefully I am not missing something to make an a$$ out of myself.
01-24-2010, 11:44 PM
i buy my egg whites bulk from a food service company then just scramble em' up, or make a egg white omelette w/ some low fat cheese and turkey breast... delicious!
01-25-2010, 12:21 AM
omelette's make an awesome breakfast swoll!
SVT, well, if you're not convinced, consider: have you found any evidence that eating them raw IMPROVES absorbance? Or even has equal absorbance? I never have - any evidence always suggests lowered absorption. Yes, some of that evidence is in ileostomy patients, but none the less I know of no data supporting raw eggs for better bioavailability. You yourself said the "Proven study" says 51% isn't absorbed in the small intestine.
Now, yes that is on average, but what's the standard deviation here? Probably not enough to close a 30-40% gap between raw and cooked absorption.
01-25-2010, 12:35 AM
01-25-2010, 02:01 AM
I like em scrambled, boiled, or poached. I used to buy pasteurized egg whites to mix in with my protein shakes post workout. However, benefit to cost ratio is not favorable doing this.
I find it hard to believe that raw egg whites are not bio-available. The acidicity and enzymes of the stomach and gut probably does a better job of breaking down protein than heat.
This is just my opinion based on my limited knowledge of physiology and chemistry. I have little faith in research studies unless they are legitimitely peer reviewed and the results can be independently duplicated. Even scientists can "find" the evidence they need to support their claims even if wrong, and scientists are the most stubborn damn people on the planet short of politicians/lawyers.
01-25-2010, 12:22 PM
01-25-2010, 04:36 PM
01-25-2010, 04:46 PM
01-26-2010, 11:14 PM
Well since I'm bulking I boil them and eat the middle not just the whites but the whole egg and eat them with Toast and Milk. Yummm :P
01-28-2010, 10:43 PM
01-28-2010, 10:45 PM
I cook mine. This may sound stupid but i bought this thing called the EZ Cracker dude that thing is amazing for opening and seperating eggs. Might sound lazy to some but damn this little contraption is my new favorite thing!
01-28-2010, 11:23 PM
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