carbs before bed?

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  1. carbs before bed?


    hello peps! just want to ask if its okay to take in carbs before bed on bulking phase? or would it be better to just take protein? o yea im a little chunky on the mid section (endomorph), i have a pretty good muscle mass as well. any advice?


  2. No carbs for you!
    Protein and a spoon or two of EVOO.
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  3. I'm an endo as well. I find that eating carbs before bed are okay, so long as they are veggies and/or something that is very fiber heavy (like 8+ grams of fiber).

    That also being said, you should be doing 3-4 30 minute sessions of cardio per week. Guys like you and I have no problems gaining muscle, we just have fat that comes with it and we need to keep it in check.

  4. It is going to be overall carb intake more than anything but I woudl definitley not eat carbs and then go to sleep. If you tend to put on fat night time carbs are probably best to be avoided or only use vegetables.
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  5. Id reccomend casein protien if anything, before bed
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  6. This is probably the worst part of my diet. I feel hungry no matter how much protein and healthy fats I take in before bed... wake up like every 2 hours wanting some freakin steak and potatoes when I don't eat carbs before bed

    Prebed meal is usually 3 egg whites, 3 whole eggs, 3 slices turkey (onion, green pepper, etc in an omelet)... sometimes I throw in extra almonds for more fats. I end up awake and hungry in 2 hours and never satisfied until I eat a typical meal that has 40g carbs

  7. something that helped me not eat carbs before bed is realizing carbs are used for energy, if I'm going to sleep how much energy do i really need. always ask yourself one thing while getting ready to eat something no matter what it is..."what am i going to be doing for the next 3 hours?". it takes the body about 3 to 4 hours to empty.

  8. More importantly, make sure any carbs you eat late in the evening with fats and protein. They will help slow the digestion of the carbs.

    For example, at 10pm every night I eat 4 whole eggs and two pieces of whole wheat double fiber bread (20g of carbs per slice with 6g of fiber in each slice)

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Grambo View Post
    It is going to be overall carb intake more than anything but I woudl definitley not eat carbs and then go to sleep. If you tend to put on fat night time carbs are probably best to be avoided or only use vegetables.
    Exactly! I hate it when people say "if you eat carbs before bed they get stored as fat". Well, maybe more so then before strenuous exercise but it is overall calorie intake which matters.

    I am ecto to the extreme but I limit carbs before bed simply because I sleep better. Like Lennoxchi said, I think about what I am gonna be doing. I load up on fat before bed.

    If you have trouble feeling satiated before bed, a few spoonfuls of coconut oil should do the trick.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by planetfuzz View Post
    Exactly! I hate it when people say "if you eat carbs before bed they get stored as fat". Well, maybe more so then before strenuous exercise but it is overall calorie intake which matters.

    I am ecto to the extreme but I limit carbs before bed simply because I sleep better. Like Lennoxchi said, I think about what I am gonna be doing. I load up on fat before bed.

    If you have trouble feeling satiated before bed, a few spoonfuls of coconut oil should do the trick.
    Yep. At the end of the day it's a numbers game....calories in - calories out

  11. Quote Originally Posted by lennoxchi View Post
    "what am i going to be doing for the next 3 hours?"
    Good idea. I suppose "cleaning up" a diet is 90% psychological. In the case of night time carbs, I suppose I'm weak minded... which makes me vulnerable to the force

  12. Quote Originally Posted by celc5 View Post
    Good idea. I suppose "cleaning up" a diet is 90% psychological. In the case of night time carbs, I suppose I'm weak minded... which makes me vulnerable to the force
    I like eat most of my food early in the day and of course lots of fat keeps the appetite at bay.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by lennoxchi View Post
    something that helped me not eat carbs before bed is realizing carbs are used for energy, if I'm going to sleep how much energy do i really need. always ask yourself one thing while getting ready to eat something no matter what it is..."what am i going to be doing for the next 3 hours?". it takes the body about 3 to 4 hours to empty.
    Exactly, no carbs after 5 P.M.
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by timmmah View Post
    Exactly, no carbs after 5 P.M.
    I don't think you need to obsess over it though. If there are 6 grams of carbs in your cottage cheese you'll live.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by lennoxchi View Post
    something that helped me not eat carbs before bed is realizing carbs are used for energy, if I'm going to sleep how much energy do i really need. always ask yourself one thing while getting ready to eat something no matter what it is..."what am i going to be doing for the next 3 hours?". it takes the body about 3 to 4 hours to empty.
    If your base metabolism is say 1800 calories/day and you sleep for 8 hours then your body will need 600 calories and maybe more to build muscle if bulking.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Nitrox View Post
    If your base metabolism is say 1800 calories/day and you sleep for 8 hours then your body will need 600 calories and maybe more to build muscle if bulking.
    1800 a meal? Or day?
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    Im not to fond of taking serm's for long periods of time....

  17. Quote Originally Posted by timmmah View Post
    1800 a meal? Or day?
    Not sure what you are asking. Base metabolism is the amount of energy required to fuel basic metobolic processes. 1800 cals/day is a ballpark figure of what an avg guy burns just to keep the body alive.

  18. So..... a guy in a coma?
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    Im not to fond of taking serm's for long periods of time....

  19. Quote Originally Posted by timmmah View Post
    So..... a guy in a coma?
    1800 calories

    heart is still beating, lungs still breathing, hair still growing, etc...

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Nitrox View Post
    If your base metabolism is say 1800 calories/day and you sleep for 8 hours then your body will need 600 calories and maybe more to build muscle if bulking.
    That is interesting. I knew that for the average guy, 1800 calories was about the bmr. Where did you get 600 cals from, Nitrox? Just curious.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by planetfuzz View Post
    That is interesting. I knew that for the average guy, 1800 calories was about the bmr. Where did you get 600 cals from, Nitrox? Just curious.
    Just a quick and dirty calculation. 1800 cals/day = 75 cals/hour. If you sleep for 8 hours then your BMR will burn through 8*75 = 600 cals in that period.

    Was just to shed light on the myth that carb (or any macro for that matter) consumption before sleeping exclusively leads to fat gain. For that to happen the amount of calories consumed would have to exceed what your BMR is still using.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Nitrox View Post
    Just a quick and dirty calculation. 1800 cals/day = 75 cals/hour. If you sleep for 8 hours then your BMR will burn through 8*75 = 600 cals in that period.

    Was just to shed light on the myth that carb (or any macro for that matter) consumption before sleeping exclusively leads to fat gain. For that to happen the amount of calories consumed would have to exceed what your BMR is still using.
    Hmm, very interesting.

    That is a good way to explain it to someone. I hate hearing people say that carbs are stored as fat if they are eaten before bed. The principles are the same as when awake. If you eat more calories than you burn, you gain weight. Regardless of what macro nutrients they are.

  23. The thing with carbohydrates is the insulin actions when ingesting them. Taking in sugar and processed wheat would lead to large spike just before bed and with no activity other than normal BMR (which is obviously not equal through out the day and lowers at night) there is a higher probability of storage vs use, especially if you have exceeded caloric intake for the day already.
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by Grambo View Post
    The thing with carbohydrates is the insulin actions when ingesting them. Taking in sugar and processed wheat would lead to large spike just before bed and with no activity other than normal BMR (which is obviously not equal through out the day and lowers at night) there is a higher probability of storage vs use, especially if you have exceeded caloric intake for the day already.
    Yeah but what if you are bulking or a bulking ecto?

  25. Quote Originally Posted by planetfuzz View Post
    Yeah but what if you are bulking or a bulking ecto?
    I still wouldn't eat a huge meal before bed no matter what personally. Get the majority of the food in during the rest of the day. And if you are bulking up I would say stick with protein and fats closer to bedtimes (and I don't mean 5pm I mean like 30-hour before you are laying down.)

    I would 100% avoid high GI carbs and sugar. Though I would hope that was avoiding most of the time anyway
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