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Old 06-04-2009, 12:53 PM  
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I made these burgers last night...good or no good?


96% fat free beef patty
150 cals
20g protein each

Whole Grain Buns
200 cals
36g carbs
2g fat
10g protein

All I added was onions, tomato, mustard and ketchup (no mayo)

I ate two of them, are these okay post workout?
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The kcals on the burgers don't add up. It should be closer to 120, but it's a decent post-training meal. Throw in some additional fruit and it would be golden.
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The kcals on the burgers don't add up. It should be closer to 120, but it's a decent post-training meal. Throw in some additional fruit and it would be golden.
what is kcals? sorry im a noob lol
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It's the actual name for calories.
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Dang, now I'm hungry.
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It's the actual name for calories.
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well what do you mean it doesn't add up? i just read it off the label
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well what do you mean it doesn't add up? i just read it off the label
96% beef should have a higher amount of protein and a lower amount of fat. The fat should only be 4% of the total weight (4g per 100g), but the nutrition listed on here indicates it has somewhere between 8-9g of fat per 4 oz (FYI, 4 oz ~ 113g).
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96% beef should have a higher amount of protein and a lower amount of fat. The fat should only be 4% of the total weight (4g per 100g), but the nutrition listed on here indicates it has somewhere between 8-9g of fat per 4 oz (FYI, 4 oz ~ 113g).
Well it does say 4g of fat
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I'm gonna check again today when I get home to make sure, cus I could be mistaken. But I'm sure it has 150 cals and it's 96% fat free
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4g fat~36 kcals
20g protein~80 kcals

~116 per 4 oz.

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4g fat~36 kcals
20g protein~80 kcals

~116 per 4 oz.

Something is missing.
Ah I see what your saying, so it's either higher in protein or higher in fat right?
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Ah I see what your saying, so it's either higher in protein or higher in fat right?
Yep.
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alright I need to double check tonight
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Kilocalories (kcal) it's 1,000 calories. The 'calories' you view on nutrition facts are actually kilocals, labeled incorrectly.
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4g fat~36 kcals
20g protein~80 kcals

~116 per 4 oz.

Something is missing.
Meat packaging is weird like that... The FDA actually allows for a claim such as 96% fat free to have more than 4% fat - because they allow a small portion of fat to be present in the lean portion of the meat (and remain uncounted). Its confusing, and completely whack...

There is some turkey they sell at my grocery that is supposed to be 95% fat free, but has more fat grams than protein grams.
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Okay so I was wrong each pattie has 25g protein
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Meat packaging is weird like that... The FDA actually allows for a claim such as 96% fat free to have more than 4% fat - because they allow a small portion of fat to be present in the lean portion of the meat (and remain uncounted). Its confusing, and completely whack...

There is some turkey they sell at my grocery that is supposed to be 95% fat free, but has more fat grams than protein grams.
Well that sucks, so do you recommend me eating this or not? It's really hard to find anything I like
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Well that sucks, so do you recommend me eating this or not? It's really hard to find anything I like
Its not a big deal. The "Nutrition Facts" still are accurate... just don't always trust the % Lean or % Fat Free... Ground Beef is good protein, keep at it.
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Its not a big deal. The "Nutrition Facts" still are accurate... just don't always trust the % Lean or % Fat Free... Ground Beef is good protein, keep at it.
thanks man.

im jus worried about the carbs in the bread, carbs confuse the hell outta me
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im jus worried about the carbs in the bread, carbs confuse the hell outta me
so long as its slow digesting (whole grain, wheats), its all good. fast digesting carbs i only use in two scenarios :
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Suncloud's got it... Sounds like you are just lifting to get stronger / bigger... carbs are your friend - just don't overdo it. If that is high quality whole grain, you're in good shape... plus its straight after your workout. Solid meal overall.
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so long as its slow digesting (whole grain, wheats), its all good. fast digesting carbs i only use in two scenarios :
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Well that makes it a lot easier to understand, damn I've been eating plain bagel for breakfast =/
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Suncloud's got it... Sounds like you are just lifting to get stronger / bigger... carbs are your friend - just don't overdo it. If that is high quality whole grain, you're in good shape... plus its straight after your workout. Solid meal overall.
How many grams of carbs should I be eating daily? Just to have a rough idea so I don't worry that I'm doing too much/too little
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How many grams of carbs should I be eating daily? Just to have a rough idea so I don't worry that I'm doing too much/too little
That's not an easy question to answer... Depends on your goals... Your flat metabolic rate for the day... how much protein and fat you're taking in...

I'd say if you're lean bulking around your weight, 200g should be comfortable.
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If you will replace ground beef with ground turkey, you'll be miles ahead. Simple casseroles with multigrain noodles, chili, SOS (sh*t on a shingle)... all the foods most cook with ground beef is just as good done with ground turkey. I make a black iron skillet pizza (whole wheat flour for the crust) using gr. turkey. Has almost no fat, and many good carbs. When I grill burgers, I use ground turkey, but top with a strip of bacon while on the grill. I mix 5 lbs ground turkey, 1 egg, garlic and 1/4 Worchestershire or soy sauce and grill up a batch on the weekend then freeze some in a zip lock to use later. Re-heat for a minute (each pattie) in the mw and mmmmmmmm....

Ground turkey is usually found in the freezer section near frozen sausage and such.
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Turkey isn't bad, but I love me some red meat for muscle growth.
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(Turkey grew my 'ittle muscles!)
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I think its great to mix up different protein sources.

All the ground turkey I see in my store unfortuntately is laden with fat, and more expensive than 'da beef.
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