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    Bread is bad?


    Someone was telling today that bread is terrible for you and that wheat isn't good either...Why is bread not good for you? I'm under the assumption she's implying it makes you gain weight and is unhealthy. She also stated it's converted to sugar, but aren't all carbohydrates converted to sugar?

    Basically, why is bread bad and should i just avoid it?

    Is pita bread ok? I generally have chicken pita sandwiches from time to time...But, if i shouldn't eat, I'll avoid it...(I don't need bread)

    I find it odd that bread would be bad for you, when Jesus and the disciples had it for last supper...I'm not really religious, but these people are basically implying God is stupid and shouldn't have had bread...He should have stuck with Ezekiel bread instead...lol

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    anything whole grain is fine, and yes, all carbs convert to sugar - its the speed of conversion you need to look out for.
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    How do i look out for that and what are the rules?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zr1 View Post
    How do i look out for that and what are the rules?
    the rules are all whole grains are OK. 7 grain, whole grain, whole wheat, rye, etc. the bad ones have "white flour" in the ingredients.
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    Enriched flour isn't good for you. Sprouted grains are great and some bread is even made out of sprouted grains (like Ezekiel). You have to remember that in Bible days food was not processed in the way it is now. Bread was home ade and probably much healthier than most you buy in the store. Jesus probably wasn't on a "weight loss/fat loss" diet during his last supper either. That was probably the last thing on his mind.
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    Could have been spouting about the evils of gluten.
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    Most breads are trash IMO, even the ones that claim to be "whole-wheat."

    Stick to Ezekiel bread, or another bread where the primary ingredients are sprouted grains.. If you see "Wheat Flour" ANYWHERE listed in the ingredients, move on.
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    Make sure one of the first ingredients in the bread isn't HFCS.
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    If anybody lives in the PNW, a great source is Silver Mills bread (a Canadian product). All sprouted grains and most breads with 5g fiber per slice. It's heavy duty stuff and very good for you.
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    I've been reading in this forum about Ezekiel bread and I've seen it at the nearby Whole Foods Market... Friday, while getting my fish oil, I decided to get a loaf of Ezekiel bread. I toasted two slices Saturday to go with my scrambled eggs and chicken and WOW it is the best tasting bread ever! I should have started eating it a long time ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by babywifey View Post
    Enriched flour isn't good for you. Sprouted grains are great and some bread is even made out of sprouted grains (like Ezekiel). You have to remember that in Bible days food was not processed in the way it is now. Bread was home ade and probably much healthier than most you buy in the store. Jesus probably wasn't on a "weight loss/fat loss" diet during his last supper either. That was probably the last thing on his mind.
    People also died of plague in the bible days.
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    Whole grain bread is a semi-processed food product. Many are high in salt and some, like others mentioned, use some sort of sweeteners.

    There are worse foods but everything in moderation. However, I think you are better off with whole food starch sources like potato, yam, rice, quinoa, etc.
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    wasnt ezekiel bread back in the day baked in ****?

    Something to consider


    Bread isnt bad if it fits your macros. I like to buy the bakery breads that look fairly old school, like the whole wheat crusty varieties. Trader joes has a nice anadama bread if you can buy it on the day its fresh. Its hit or miss sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zr1 View Post
    Someone was telling today that bread is terrible for you and that wheat isn't good either...Why is bread not good for you? I'm under the assumption she's implying it makes you gain weight and is unhealthy. She also stated it's converted to sugar, but aren't all carbohydrates converted to sugar?

    Basically, why is bread bad and should i just avoid it?

    Is pita bread ok? I generally have chicken pita sandwiches from time to time...But, if i shouldn't eat, I'll avoid it...(I don't need bread)

    I find it odd that bread would be bad for you, when Jesus and the disciples had it for last supper...I'm not really religious, but these people are basically implying God is stupid and shouldn't have had bread...He should have stuck with Ezekiel bread instead...lol
    What?! Bread is bad? Well,.. For me, it's not.. Choosing the right bread is key to a healthy diet... And, have you experienced eating bread then came up with bad results?
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    Bread is like putting glue in your digestive system, but its ok in moderation... here is a quote I use

    "the whiter the bread, the quicker you're dead"

    white bread is bad, anything WHITE is bad because it has to be bleached and stripped of all its nutrients... I wouldn't say don't eat bread, but use in moderation and please dn't eat white bread!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone View Post
    Bread is like putting glue in your digestive system, but its ok in moderation...
    Actually, it's a good way to keep things moving. Fiber is your friend.


    Quote Originally Posted by Tone View Post
    here is a quote I use

    "the whiter the bread, the quicker you're dead"

    white bread is bad, anything WHITE is bad because it has to be bleached and stripped of all its nutrients... I wouldn't say don't eat bread, but use in moderation and please dn't eat white bread!
    You're just being dramatic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinn View Post
    Actually, it's a good way to keep things moving. Fiber is your friend.
    Which you can get from many whole food sources which have no additives, lower calorie density, and more micronutrition. Bread is hardly an essential food.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone View Post
    Bread is like putting glue in your digestive system, but its ok in moderation... here is a quote I use

    "the whiter the bread, the quicker you're dead"

    white bread is bad, anything WHITE is bad because it has to be bleached and stripped of all its nutrients... I wouldn't say don't eat bread, but use in moderation and please dn't eat white bread!
    I wouldn't tell anyone else that quote......you were when you thought/posted that, weren't you?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitrox View Post
    Which you can get from many whole food sources which have no additives, lower calorie density, and more micronutrition. Bread is hardly an essential food.
    Thanks for the input but nobody claimed it was an essential food.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinn View Post
    Thanks for the input but nobody claimed it was an essential food.
    Quote Originally Posted by margarette29 View Post
    What?! Bread is bad? Well,.. For me, it's not.. Choosing the right bread is key to a healthy diet... And, have you experienced eating bread then came up with bad results?
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    ...hey, it's simple folks: look at the nutrition facts & ingredients. If it's whole sprouted grain (Ezekiel, Silver Mills, Dave's, some others), has high fiber content per slice (no, 2g is not acceptable) and doesn't contain sugars or hfcs and/or white flour it's okay.

    I occasionally cheat with caraway rye, but usually I go with the Silver Mills Flax or Squirrely (both 5g fiber per slice!) which are also not made with flour (none of their breads are).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jda777 View Post
    I wouldn't tell anyone else that quote......you were when you thought/posted that, weren't you?





    Actually I tell that to a lot of people, because its true. You should do some reasearch before you make comments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitrox View Post
    Try to quote the correct person next time for clarification. It didn't make sense to tell me it's not essential when I didn't claim it as such. Regardless, you took her post out of context. Another way of wording it would be "If eating bread, the key is to choose the right kind."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone View Post
    Actually I tell that to a lot of people, because its true. You should do some reasearch before you make comments.



    Where can I read that 'the whiter the bread the quicker I'm dead?' Lol. Don't answer that, I'm just kidding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jda777 View Post



    Where can I read that 'the whiter the bread the quicker I'm dead?' Lol. Don't answer that, I'm just kidding.


    Go ask any Dietician or Nutritionist
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone View Post
    Go ask any Dietician or Nutritionist
    No RD will tell you that white bread is going to kill you or speed up your death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinn View Post
    No RD will tell you that white bread is going to kill you or speed up your death.

    Its just a saying that means that bleached flour, or white bread is not good for you.... You don't have to listen to me, nobody has to listen to me.. everybody has their own opinion about damn near everything.. im just tryin to help people be healthy... i put information out there to try and save lives, thats what I do...
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    I eat two HUGE slices of bread covered in natty p-butter and splenda every morning for breakfast...

    Of course we grind our own wheat and bake our own bread, so I know its the good stuff....

    Otherwise I say go whole wheat or sprouted and NO sugar or HFCS!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone View Post
    Its just a saying that means that bleached flour, or white bread is not good for you.... You don't have to listen to me, nobody has to listen to me.. everybody has their own opinion about damn near everything.. im just tryin to help people be healthy... i put information out there to try and save lives, thats what I do...
    Spreading misinformation is not how you should go about trying to save lives. Claiming an RD would agree with what you said is ignorant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinn View Post
    Spreading misinformation is not how you should go about trying to save lives. Claiming an RD would agree with what you said is ignorant.

    Brenda Davis R.D.

    http://www.brendadavisrd.com/handouts.php?id=20

    why don't you read what she has to say about white flour and then you can tell me if what I said was misinformation or not. Get a clue
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone View Post
    Brenda Davis R.D.

    http://www.brendadavisrd.com/handouts.php?id=20

    why don't you read what she has to say about white flour and then you can tell me if what I said was misinformation or not. Get a clue
    She said white flour should not be a dietary staple but is fine for occasional consumption. So where did she say it'll make you die faster again? Right...she didn't.

    Come back when you get your information from peer-reviewed sources and RDs in a hospital setting; not from someone wanting you to buy their book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinn View Post
    She said white flour should not be a dietary staple but is fine for occasional consumption. So where did she say it'll make you die faster again? Right...she didn't.

    Come back when you get your information from peer-reviewed sources and RDs in a hospital setting; not from someone wanting you to buy their book.
    You said no RD would tell me that white bread is bad... So I showed you. Also I have talked to many RDs and Wellness professionals (I am one) who say the same thing... what do you do work in a factory?? I think being in the wellness profession, and working for a wellness DC, I know a little more than you, and have collegues who know a lot more than you. Im done with this topic. Have a nice day!
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    Damn The Withe Bread is son of Satan`s?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone View Post
    what do you do work in a factory?? I think being in the wellness profession, and working for a wellness DC, I know a little more than you, and have collegues who know a lot more than you. Im done with this topic. Have a nice day!
    A factory? Nah...I'm in a hospital every day for school. I have plenty of exposure to these things. No RDs(except one possibly selling you a product) will tell you "the whiter the bread, the quicker you're dead" as you claim.


    ...a wellness coach that works for a wellness DC(chiropractor?)? Things make more sense now.
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    Speaking to a nutrionist, I was told that some whole weat bread are not good for you! He claims that if you can take a piece of bread and make it into one big ball then its not good for you! True whole wheat bread should crumble in your fingers when you try to make a ball out of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinn View Post
    A factory? Nah...I'm in a hospital every day for school. I have plenty of exposure to these things. No RDs(except one possibly selling you a product) will tell you "the whiter the bread, the quicker you're dead" as you claim.


    ...a wellness coach that works for a wellness DC(chiropractor?)? Things make more sense now.


    First of all "the whiter the bread, the quicker you're dead" is a figure of speech. Just because i call you "douche bag" doesn't mean that I actually think you are a bag that is used for women to douche themselves with. It simply means that you are in the same category... Hence, when I say the whiter the bread the quicker you're dead, that doesn't mean you are going to die if you eat white bread.

    Here are some facts about white bread:

    bread is not supposed to be white at all. A bleaching process was incorporated into bread making to give flour and the bread it makes a longer shelf life in the grocery store. During the process of bleaching most of the vitamin E antioxidant is lost, as well as the essential wheat germ and bran, which leaves only poor quality proteins and fattening starch.

    Wheat germ and bran is known to:

    Lower cholesterol
    Combat colon cancer
    Prevent constipation
    Help stop strokes
    Protect against heart disease
    Improve digestion
    (too bad all that is stripped in white bread)

    In addition, the flour is stripped of nutrients including 50% of all calcium, 70% of phosphorus, 80% iron, 98% magnesium, 75% manganese, and 50% potassium.

    Also all of the carbs in it are refined, basically all sugar, very little fiber because its all been stripped... You tell me whats good about it, and then tell my why I would eat it??? Or anybody should eat it for that matter...

    Keep eating it, keep spiking your insulin levels, get fat, get diabetes, possibly die..... Not in all cases but for some people that will happen.
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    Cinn doesn't disagree that white bread is unhealthy. He disagrees with how extreme your statement comes across. He is interpreting it literally, as your immediate defense of the statement implied you meant it as such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jda777 View Post
    Cinn doesn't disagree that white bread is unhealthy. He disagrees with how extreme your statement comes across. He is interpreting it literally, as your immediate defense of the statement implied you meant it as such.
    ^^^This.

    The lifting community(more so the brotelligence community) has taught itself to treat everything as an extreme. It is a-okay to enjoy most everything in moderation. Is white bread an ideal source of carbs? Not really. Is HFCS an ideal part of any diet? Not really. Is a snickers the healthiest snack choice? Not really. Will any of these things be so detrimental to your health that your life will end sooner if occasionally consumed? Probably not.
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    Just stick with ezekial bread and dilemma solved. (Just being peace maker here, as this thread has gotten silly)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinn View Post
    ^^^This.

    The lifting community(more so the brotelligence community) has taught itself to treat everything as an extreme. It is a-okay to enjoy most everything in moderation. Is white bread an ideal source of carbs? Not really. Is HFCS an ideal part of any diet? Not really. Is a snickers the healthiest snack choice? Not really. Will any of these things be so detrimental to your health that your life will end sooner if occasionally consumed? Probably not.
    I love reading your posts. And you're right, there aren't many RDs out there that will say its bad for you. RDs have a very "middle of the road" policy. The bodybuilding community is what takes things to the extreme sides.

    Take home message: Bread is ok for human consumption.
  

  
 

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