i like how OT lasts 45 days and not the normal 30
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In as simple terms as I can put it, bodybuilders have more going on at a physiological basis than the regular dude does. Vitamins and minerals act as catalysts for reactions that take place inside the body. Bodybuilders have more going on, therefore, we need more vitamins and minerals. I'm not saying we need a lot more. Just guessing, I'd say around 150% of the RDA for most things would be a better bet than just going by what the RDA is. Anyone want to discuss?
I'd love to discuss.In as simple terms as I can put it, bodybuilders have more going on at a physiological basis than the regular dude does. Vitamins and minerals act as catalysts for reactions that take place inside the body. Bodybuilders have more going on, therefore, we need more vitamins and minerals. I'm not saying we need a lot more. Just guessing, I'd say around 150% of the RDA for most things would be a better bet than just going by what the RDA is. Anyone want to discuss?
For the most part yeah... I definitely agree with that. I really wouldn't muck around with the low dose RDI trace minerals that much but other than that, unless you are taking beyond tolerable UL levels I'd say its pretty much standard than anyone who leads a physically demanding lifestyle should be supplementing with a multi.
The RDI/RDA's were designed in mind to, if met, counteract diseases that would come with nutrient deficiency. So basically its the dose that will keep you from developing deficiency diseases and will treat deficiency diseases if you have them.
The fact that some of these ADA nutritionists and dieticians are still saying you don't need a multi if you have a well constructed diets irks me. Point in fact the quality of most american food sucks and no amount of diet planning is going to increase the declining nutrient quality of our food... Honestly, someday i'm going to bring that whole organization crashing down and piss on its grave. Once I get enough posts so I can post links then everyone can be treated to an ADA rant. Sorry to get heated its just the ignorance of that organization and the stupidity it breeds astounds me.
You are correct sir, except for the fact that many nutritionist and dieticians don't recommend a multi, many do. The AMA no states that everyone should take a multivitamin daily. But yes, you are absolutely right about the RDAs, they are set to prevent deficiency, not actually provide the level of those substances that the average healthy person should consume to enhance his/her health, and thats the average healthy person, not bodybuilders.
whats the general consensus on ON Opti-Men as a multi?
I hear about AP a lot, but this is the first I've heard of OT.
And I was just about to order a MV from NP .....
So what multivitamin would you recommend?
So I read your post DJ and don't see how pointing out that the old formula had an inferior form of Vit D makes the entire product a "cheap product"...unless by "cheap" you mean price and not quality...
say what's on your mind the first time around so we don't have to play the guessing game or harass it out of you, boy!
You're posts are rediculously vague...You point to that other thread as if all of the answers are there but all you really did was compliment them on switching to D3 and post a study....I've read a quite a few of your threads and you seem unable to post any of your own thoughts...all you ever do is regurgitate other people's writing.