carbs during working out
- 12-19-2008, 01:22 AM
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12-20-2008, 05:15 AM
wms is heavy, not complex
12-20-2008, 12:06 PM
Carbo Gain contains virtually no protein, fat or fiber and is a convenient source of energy for active individuals.
12-20-2008, 03:27 PM
12-20-2008, 03:41 PM
the shake before/during seems to help, I make better progress and my results are better compared to if I don't consume it.
I also seem to get a better 'pump' on higher rep days.
12-21-2008, 09:11 AM
I think saving it for PWO would be better so that the insulin spike and protein can come when your body needs it. I don't have much science to back up this post though
12-21-2008, 11:00 AM
Reasoning - you're using those carbs while you workout - why limit your carbs to post-workout; consume them while you're using them! Also, carbs+amino acids intra- or pre workout has been shown to decrease cortisol production, speed recovery and increase protein synthesis (look up the Journal of Sports and Fitness nutrition article that U-Rep posted, good stuff).
I have never seen any compelling evidence that WMS is superior to Malto or Dex. Everything has been anecdotal or put forth by a company producing it with very limited specifics as to their study methods.
Malto is a complex carb (complex meaning it is more than one monosaccharide bound together); WMS is too, it is just bigger, heavier and contains more "branches" of sugars all stuck together than Malto. Does that make it better. Not necessarily - until I find some actual evidence otherwise, logic says it's gonna spike insulin just as much as any other fast carb.
12-22-2008, 07:46 AM
So what carbs do you like best for that shake? I've been doing something very similar and experimenting with carbs. Dex/Malto was good and I was hungry much sooner after my workout and the dex/waxy gave me a more gradual hunger. Other than that they seem similar. I'm thinking about maybe doing dextrose and sucrose.
12-22-2008, 03:31 PM
I use dex/malto because they are cheap and effective. For some reason, a mix of different carbs actually promotes more carb oxidation (more carbs are burned for fuel) faster than one kind of carb.
Using Sucrose is alright, but don't use a majority of it. About 30% at most, as too much fructose (which makes up half of sucrose) will slow the digestion of your intra-workout shake too much. As I'm sure you know, fructose can only be metabolized in the liver, so while having some fructose to help your liver out can be good, too much will impede your muscles from getting the nourishment they want while you lift.
So, a 70dex/30sucrose would be good, or even 2/3dex, 1/3suc would work to make measuring easier. That would make about 15% of you intra-workout carbs fructose.
12-22-2008, 05:03 PM
im hearing that WMS is king of pre/post carbs bc its soo heavy it pulls all the other supps into play... superhuman radio
12-22-2008, 07:20 PM
12-23-2008, 10:00 AM
No prob man.
sucrose is table sugar. But it is technically a disaccharide (two sugar molecules bound together); one of those sugar molecules is dextrose and the other is fructose.
Dextrose is corn sugar and is also known as r-glucose. It is one of the simplest sugars available. Your body ultimately converts all forms of carbohydrates and sugar into dex.
12-23-2008, 05:08 PM
I read a study today saying that your body is in need of protien the most during and immediatly after exercise. Not sure if this relates to carbs too though.
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