Critique my breakfast shake

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  1. IMO, you can't really get too much fiber, just more than what your body is acclamated too. Unless, of course, you start eating a tub of psyllium husks everday or something else equally ridiculous.

    Fuzz, having oats and berries will lower the GI of the entire meal, but won't affect the GI of the malto itself. Other, larger, more complex molecules may slow it's absorption, but again you are then looking at the GI of the entire meal.

    If you're not gaining fat on Malto, good for you, just remember it is high GI and is also a food that can very quickly amount to a high glycemic load. If the rest of your diet's not in check, or also has a high glycemic load, over time you could develop insulin resistance or other blood sugar problems.

    Not saying it will happen as genetics play a large part and I don't know your entire diet, I'm just saying be aware.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by Resolve View Post
    IMO, you can't really get too much fiber, just more than what your body is acclamated too. Unless, of course, you start eating a tub of psyllium husks everday or something else equally ridiculous.

    Fuzz, having oats and berries will lower the GI of the entire meal, but won't affect the GI of the malto itself. Other, larger, more complex molecules may slow it's absorption, but again you are then looking at the GI of the entire meal.

    If you're not gaining fat on Malto, good for you, just remember it is high GI and is also a food that can very quickly amount to a high glycemic load. If the rest of your diet's not in check, or also has a high glycemic load, over time you could develop insulin resistance or other blood sugar problems.

    Not saying it will happen as genetics play a large part and I don't know your entire diet, I'm just saying be aware.


    Agreed on all points, Resolve.

    Some people do recommend a 2:1 malto (or glucose or dextrose) to whey immediately upon waking before your first solid meal, and having protein and slow-digesting carbs in the solid meal.

    For someone trying to bulk that's under 200 pounds and fairly low body fat (IE, an ecto), I'd guess that 60-70 grams would not be "too much." 100+ would probably be too much.

    I've read before that having too much fiber will actually leach nutrients out of the rest of your food, but I can't imagine that happening if you are actually eating whole foods and not supplementing with psyllium or glucomannan.

    To the too much fiber guy...how much are you ACTUALLY getting?
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by conwict View Post


    Agreed on all points, Resolve.

    Some people do recommend a 2:1 malto (or glucose or dextrose) to whey immediately upon waking before your first solid meal, and having protein and slow-digesting carbs in the solid meal.

    For someone trying to bulk that's under 200 pounds and fairly low body fat (IE, an ecto), I'd guess that 60-70 grams would not be "too much." 100+ would probably be too much.

    I've read before that having too much fiber will actually leach nutrients out of the rest of your food, but I can't imagine that happening if you are actually eating whole foods and not supplementing with
    psyllium or glucomannan.

    To the too much fiber guy...how much are you ACTUALLY getting?
    Thanks resolve. It's helping me gain weight but I also want to keep my health in check. I usually get about 25-30g a day. I know that is about average but anymore and I'm sure I'd have some digestive issues. I only use about 50g a day maybe 75 on a training day. My diet is pretty solid. Maltodextrin is about as sugary as it gets except maybe some juice post-workout. When it runs low I'll consider something else. Thanks again for the advice resolve.

  4. Hey, no problem, it's the whole point of this forum.

    There's a lot of good advice in this thread from lots of guys, not just me.
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by planetfuzz View Post
    Thanks resolve. It's helping me gain weight but I also want to keep my health in check. I usually get about 25-30g a day. I know that is about average but anymore and I'm sure I'd have some digestive issues. I only use about 50g a day maybe 75 on a training day. My diet is pretty solid. Maltodextrin is about as sugary as it gets except maybe some juice post-workout. When it runs low I'll consider something else. Thanks again for the advice resolve.
    i've been getting about 100 - 110 grams of fiber a day
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Resolve View Post
    Hey, no problem, it's the whole point of this forum.

    There's a lot of good advice in this thread from lots of guys, not just me.
    It's always neat how I'll end up learning something on accident. Love AM!!

  7. Quote Originally Posted by jsp0785 View Post
    i've been getting about 100 - 110 grams of fiber a day
    Wow - good for you! I have no clue how much I get, but I know it's a fair bit - I get about 10g at breakfast and then have fibrous veggies at every other meal and my fat choices typically have fiber in them too. I know I'm getting a lot, so the actual number I don't concern myself with too much.
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by jsp0785 View Post
    i've been getting about 100 - 110 grams of fiber a day
    Wow. I guess if it works for you. 25-30 seems to keep everything moving for me. I can't imagine quadrupling it.

  9. that looks like a sick stack

  10. Quote Originally Posted by jsp0785 View Post
    i've been getting about 100 - 110 grams of fiber a day
    ......HOW?

    If you aren't supplementing, let's work with a relatively high-fiber food to figure out how many cals you are eating...

    Oatmeal: 1/2 cup (dry) - ~150 calories, 4 grams of fiber.

    25 servings * 150 = 3750 cal, 100 grams fiber

    Even if you were eating nothing but a fairly high-fiber food like oatmeal, you'd have to eat 12.5 cups of oatmeal daily to get that much fiber, and you'd be eating a pretty good number of calories (3750).

    IF you aren't supplementing with a SEPERATE fiber supp...I see NO way this is possible.

    How many calories are you eating and WTF foods are you eating?

  11. Oatmeal not really a high fiber food, when you compare calories and grams of fiber per serving to, say, veggies or beans.

    I mean, a 3oz serving of spinach has 3g total carbs, 2 of which are fiber, so it has next-to-no calories, just phytonutrient goodness. I'll eat 10-12oz of spinach at a time, usually along with lots of other veggies that all contain high amounts of fiber too, so it adds up. Do that 6-8 times a day with various veggies and I get a lot of fiber.

    Additionallly, some kinds of beans have about 14g fiber per serving, avocado can have up to 17g per fruit, and coconut and other nuts are practically all fiber, in terms of their carb content. So it's just a matter of what you eat - it would be hard to hit 100 w/just grains, but it's doable with other kinds of food from the plant kingdom.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by conwict View Post
    ......HOW?

    If you aren't supplementing, let's work with a relatively high-fiber food to figure out how many cals you are eating...

    Oatmeal: 1/2 cup (dry) - ~150 calories, 4 grams of fiber.

    25 servings * 150 = 3750 cal, 100 grams fiber

    Even if you were eating nothing but a fairly high-fiber food like oatmeal, you'd have to eat 12.5 cups of oatmeal daily to get that much fiber, and you'd be eating a pretty good number of calories (3750).

    IF you aren't supplementing with a SEPERATE fiber supp...I see NO way this is possible. the cereal i eat sometimes has 8g per serving

    How many calories are you eating and WTF foods are you eating?
    wheat pasta has 10grams of fiber per serving. that's a lot of it

  13. Quote Originally Posted by malou View Post
    sorry newbie here
    when you guyz talk about olive oil is that tha regola olive oil from wali world
    and why egg white and not tha whole egg
    when trying to gain weight shoulda aim fo mo calories intake or proteins
    reading this guys post made me feel like i transported back in time and was 13 years old again in an AOL chat room

  14. Quote Originally Posted by malou View Post
    sorry newbie here
    when you guyz talk about olive oil is that tha regola olive oil from wali world
    and why egg white and not tha whole egg
    when trying to gain weight shoulda aim fo mo calories intake or proteins
    Using punctuation would have been a good start.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by planetfuzz View Post
    It's always neat how I'll end up learning something on accident. Love AM!!
    How'd I miss this post? It's the exact way I feel!
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