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Old 10-02-2008, 04:54 PM   #1
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is splenda safe?

could someone tell me? lol. im watching this vid on aspartame ( i know its not splenda) but i knew it was dangerous and interesting. so is splenda just as toxic?
 



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Old 10-02-2008, 06:46 PM   #2
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I don't think so. I've been throwing this stuff all over my Go Lean Crunch! cereal, and it tastes great.

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Old 10-03-2008, 10:02 AM   #3
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thats what im saying man haha. i use it in my koolaid and on my oatmeal i hope its safe
 



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Splenda is pretty safe. The original study back in the 50s (i think?) was based on HUGE amounts being given to rats. Over time the study was given less and less credibility and in 2000 congress repealed the requirement for warning label. It was never actually banned and the FDA canceled its proposal to ban in in the early 90s I believe.

I use it without worry.
 




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Old 10-03-2008, 04:02 PM   #5
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I looked into Splenda after watching the aspartame documentary, and couldn't really find any controversy over it.

I sure hope it isn't toxic, seeing as how it's used in most protein powders.
 
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Old 10-03-2008, 08:13 PM   #6
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It is my understanding that sucralose's toxicity levels are much lower than other artificial sweeteners.

That being said, I have read studies indicated that some of it, up to 40% possibly, is actually absorbed and metabolised. This means the chloride bound to and preventing the absorption of the sucrose is broken off, releasing the chloride as an ion and the sucrose as, well sugar obviously.

This is not indisputable fact, bear in mind, just the outcome of a few experiments I read a while ago. Just my .02

Personally, I don't like the idea of "up to 40%" of a supposedly non-nutritive sweetener being metabolized as normal sugar, but I don't like artificial sweeteners in general. Again, however, this is not fact, only a possibility that needs further verification.
 



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Old 10-03-2008, 08:17 PM   #7
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I read that Rumsfield was the ass who pushed it onto the market. So with his stamp of approval, you can be sure its unsafe haha
 
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Funny thing I noticed on the Light Yoplait Yogurt labels. They flaunt their use of aspartame and "other artificial sweeteners." It's in pretty big text, right on the front of the label.
 



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Old 10-04-2008, 11:32 AM   #9
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Yoplait is really bad in general - healthwise. I'm not surprised they use aspartame as a selling point - they're marketed to overweight housewives and such, and to those folks, less cals = thin. Nevermind that if the cals you do get are crap that your going to lose lean mass right along with a bit of fat, and prohibit your body's proper function

I stick to whole, organic plain yogurt - it's great for you.
 



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Old 10-04-2008, 01:19 PM   #10
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I think the 'dangers of aspartame/splenda' are severely overrated. No normal person - whether you're active or non-active - should feel any side effects from an average consumption of aspartame or splenda .. If you're an idiot and choose to live off of sugar free sodas and the likes, feel free, there aspartame may cause some internal issues within time . . but for Xod's sake, don't turn your lives upside/down from the 'fear of fake sugars' .. 'Research' is a vert loosely defined term. Government and researchers always come up with $hit to restrict our consumption of anything .. Leave us be, dammit, and let us make our own choices.
 



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I think the 'dangers of aspartame/splenda' are severely overrated. No normal person - whether you're active or non-active - should feel any side effects from an average consumption of aspartame or splenda .. If you're an idiot and choose to live off of sugar free sodas and the likes, feel free, there aspartame may cause some internal issues within time . . but for Xod's sake, don't turn your lives upside/down from the 'fear of fake sugars' .. 'Research' is a vert loosely defined term. Government and researchers always come up with $hit to restrict our consumption of anything .. Leave us be, dammit, and let us make our own choices.
Exactly,

At the end of the day, it seems EVERYTHING causes cancer, or there is a study proving it is unsafe.. What can we really do? From the air we breathe, to that water we drink, everything is ****ing toxic.

I would be more worried about all the vitamins, and supplements we cram in our bodies on a daily basis, thinking they contain what the "label" says, when we don't really know what the hell is in there.

Not to mention who the hell knows what any of these "herbs" do to us? That they aren't carcinogenic.
 
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Old 10-05-2008, 01:58 AM   #12
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I think the 'dangers of aspartame/splenda' are severely overrated. No normal person - whether you're active or non-active - should feel any side effects from an average consumption of aspartame or splenda .. If you're an idiot and choose to live off of sugar free sodas and the likes, feel free, there aspartame may cause some internal issues within time . . but for Xod's sake, don't turn your lives upside/down from the 'fear of fake sugars' .. 'Research' is a vert loosely defined term. Government and researchers always come up with $hit to restrict our consumption of anything .. Leave us be, dammit, and let us make our own choices.
Agreed. This is out of Men's Health: "Your brain is safe. A review of over 500 studies on aspartame found that there is no evidence that aspartame causes cancer or neurological damage in humans. The authors (scientists from 10 universities) studied research on various levels of intake,including those that far exceeded daily averages."

I avoid aspartame whenever I can. Sucralose is much harder to avoid,but if either are in something I am eating I don't freak out.
 



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Old 10-06-2008, 05:34 PM   #13
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Splenda is basically "chlorinated sugar"... the sound of that doesn't bother anyone? I just installed an expensive water filter to get chlorine out of our whole house, so eating "little yellow chlorine packets" doesn't make sense to me. Its hard to find things like protein powder or energy bars without it.
 



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I used to like Splenda, but now the stuff scares the hell out of me. Just use Stevia or Raw Sugar.

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Splenda is basically "chlorinated sugar"... the sound of that doesn't bother anyone? I just installed an expensive water filter to get chlorine out of our whole house, so eating "little yellow chlorine packets" doesn't make sense to me. Its hard to find things like protein powder or energy bars without it.
Not one bit since I know salt is Sodium Chloride and nobody is flipping out about that right The amount of sucralose used is VERY small since it is 600x sweeter than sucrose, so you're getting maybe a few mg of the compound, of which only 3 atoms is chlorine.

That being said, try and curb your sugar tooth and don't live off artificial sweeteners. I know I have phases where I love dumping sugar into my tea, then I'll go on green tea for a week and look back thinking I