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Old 09-08-2008, 07:49 PM   #1
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High Fructose Corn Syrup is.....

Perfectly fine according to a recent series of television adds.


Also:
SweetSurprise - Factual Information About Common Sweeteners like Sugar, Honey and High Fructose Corn Syrup (HFCS)

I guarantee people out there will see these commercials and think," HFCS is all natural, it has to be good for you." Also if I remember correctly, fructose can only be metabolized and stored in the liver unlike glucose which can be stored in muscles as glycogen. Therefore once the liver has full stores of Fructose it will convert the excess fructose into triglycerides. I personally stay away from HFCS and try to not get fructose in my diet at all unless it is from fruits, I am curious to what everyone else thinks about HFCS?
 



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Old 09-08-2008, 07:52 PM   #2
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The devil! No, in all seriousness you are correct: Fructose has only 5% binding affinity to muscle GLUT receptors. That being said, fructose stores in the liver are necessary, but should be obtained by fruit!

(I just regurgitated your post, really).
 



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Those commercials are comdemning countless people to adult onset diabetes.

HFCS is nothing but deleterious to our culture - provides no nutritional value (empty calories) and only half of its constituents has any practical chance of being metabolised for energy, as pretty much the only time when the liver is low on glycogen is first thing in the morning or after fasting. There is even research that suggests fructose generates insulin resistance faster than glucose.

HFCS has a reasonably low GI (typically in the 60s), but Just because it's got a moderate glycemic index does not make it worthy of ingestion - there are other factors that effect insulin sensitivity and bodyweight, not just gi.
 



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The devil! No, in all seriousness you are correct: Fructose has only 5% binding affinity to muscle GLUT receptors. That being said, fructose stores in the liver are necessary, but should be obtained by fruit!

(I just regurgitated your post, really).
When I seen you were the first responder I thought, "SOB mullets going to get all scientific and prove me completely wrong but at least no one except for Strategicmove and a couple others will understand him." lol

Fructose can definitely be beneficial in some instances as well because it replenishes liver stores so rapidly. Someone that is truly carb depleted will notice less fatigue if they use a sucrose solution because the fructose will replenish the liver and the glucose can either be stored in muscle or burned off as well. The problem with these adds is that they just show people eating or drinking junk foods that are not going to benefit their sitting around and doing nothing, and that just represents way to much of the US public lol.
 



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When I seen you were the first responder I thought, "SOB mullets going to get all scientific and prove me completely wrong but at least no one except for Strategicmove and a couple others will understand him." lol

Fructose can definitely be beneficial in some instances as well because it replenishes liver stores so rapidly. Someone that is truly carb depleted will notice less fatigue if they use a sucrose solution because the fructose will replenish the liver and the glucose can either be stored in muscle or burned off as well. The problem with these adds is that they just show people eating or drinking junk foods that are not going to benefit their sitting around and doing nothing, and that just represents way to much of the US public lol.
LOL!

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Perfectly fine according to a recent series of television adds.
The adds will say WHATEVER the majority of average consumers want to hear. It is not just in the US, it is a problem of all developed countries. People will always choose a path of least resistance to boost their serotonin levels: . They couldn't care less about their health. If they did, doctors and pharmaceuticals would be out of business Only crazy people eat clean and exercise
 



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The natural sugars in vegetables and fruits seem perfectly fine. But I definitely wouldn't watch these commercials and then go consume a package of candy or anything of that sort.
 
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They need to have a commercial that antagonizes these. These commercials basically sum up the vast majority of people (the uneducated one on the left) and the fructose pusher (equally uneducated on the right).
 
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Good read on fructose, somewhat long.

Click on 'show transcript'

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/healthrepor...07/1969924.htm
 
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Tobacco and cocaine are also 100% natural
 





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You ever watch the process that is done to make cocaine? That **** is crazy..lol

Marijuana, now that is natural.
 
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Haven't had much contact with Columbian drug lords lately, no.
 





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No? Then what do you do for fun?
 
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