[tanboy75019]

What do you have with your Wheaties? Moo Milk? or Soy Milk?

I start almost every morning with Kashi GoLean just because as a dry cereal, it has a crazy protein content of 13g (and 10g fiber - it's a great cereal). I mix in another 10g of whey protein and some fruit, and top off with a cup of soy milk (adds 7g protein) for a decent 30g of protein for breakfast. Now, after doing more research and being more body-conscious about what I'm actually eating, I'm debating switching back to milk (it does a body good - pass it on), reluctantly.

I like soy milk because of the long shelf life. With the cost of milk these days, I can get a half gallon of soy milk for about $1.99 shopping smart and buying, say in Aug, you can find expiration dates in early October. Typically, you get 6-7g of protein in a cup. Soy also has protective isoflavones. On the negative side, soy has phyto(plant-based) estrogens. No one agrees on whether or not it may be harmful.

Milk on the other hand, doesn't last quite as long and can cost just as much or more than the soy. If you don't drink it up, you wasted your cash. It can also has fat in it. (I would go for the skim). And, if you aren't watching where the milk came from, you could be injesting whatever hormones they gave the cows. However, it's a better protein. Typically, you may see 3-4g of protein in a cup.

Not harmful: drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA312211 (Can Soy Feminize a Boy?)
Aweful terrible, stop using it now: t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_diet_nutrition_bo dybuilding/the_evils_of_soy

What's your poison? Moo Milk? or Soy?

[zay1967]

I used soy milk in my protein shakes and when I eat cereal or oatmeal. That is, until I read how it gives men oestrogen. I switched to organic rice milk, and believe me, it made a hug difference. Now, I admit that rice milk does not have as much protein as cow milk, but you can make up for that. I also admit that it cost more, but it has a long shelf life. Walmart is your best bet at getting it for about 2.50 for 64oz vs getting it for 6.00 at krogers

[tanboy75019]

Originally Posted by zay1967

I used soy milk in my protein shakes and when I eat cereal or oatmeal. That is, until I read how it gives men oestrogen. I switched to organic rice milk, and believe me, it made a hug difference. Now, I admit that rice milk does not have as much protein as cow milk, but you can make up for that. I also admit that it cost more, but it has a long shelf life. Walmart is your best bet at getting it for about 2.50 for 64oz vs getting it for 6.00 at krogers

You know Zay, I have never considered rice milk. Maybe I should have included that in the poll! How's the taste? Do you have to get flavored rice milk to make it palatable? Or is it great "right out of the box"?

When you say it made a huge difference, are you saying that you saw an increase in gains once you switched over?

[TripDog]

Leave the soy for soccar moms.

[zay1967]

The taste out of the box is good, but you can buy chocolate or vanilla flavors as well; I use the plain flavor. The difference I am referring to is the consistency of the shakes (not thick and pasty). I also noticed that I was less gassy (a lot less). The gains are probably comparable, but it was more lean. I did the change mainly for the other additional health reasons. Just give it a try for a while and see how it works for you.

[somewhatgifted]

I started drinking soy when milk began to give me horrendous gas and the sheits. more vitamins, same protein content, less fat and i would never drink enough of it to matter. beer raises estrogen levels as well but i dont drink soy milk like beer so..

[thaOrleanyte]

Originally Posted by TripDog

Leave the soy for soccar moms.

word.......

[wrkn4bigrmusles]

Originally Posted by zay1967

I used soy milk in my protein shakes and when I eat cereal or oatmeal. That is, until I read how it gives men oestrogen.

ditto as to why i stopped

[futurepilot]

http://www.milksucks.com/index2.asp

[tnubs]

Originally Posted by futurepilot

http://www.milksucks.com/index2.asp

i love peta

[raginfcktard]

i hardly drink milk on general

[Machine Mind]

Whole Moo Cow Titty Milk ftw

[Resolve]

soy milk in kashi? Wow - overpriced crap.

Don't go with skim milk either - go with whole, and organic too if you can afford it - good fat profile and CLA to boot.

And don't bother overpaying for dry cereals, just go pick up some grains in bulk - way cheap and way tasty. Oats, groats, barley, quinoa, whatever, try 'em, they rock

[poopypants]

doesnt reg milk have like 11g of protein per cup??? and thats a slow release protein at that meaning in the end youll absorb more...(more likely)

Forget the shelf life, I cant even keep a gallon in my fridge for just over a day!!! Between my son and I we go through 3 gallons every 2 days and we are both big and strong....

Milk def does a body good.

[Orangepeel]

Originally Posted by futurepilot

http://www.milksucks.com/index2.asp

you peta you

[Theipodpeople]

Originally Posted by Machine Mind

Whole Moo Cow Titty Milk ftw

WOOT