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Old 08-20-2008, 12:04 PM   #1
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Diet Sodas

Good for you when trying to cut, or counter productive?

I imagine they are bad, but I love them, and I see healthy people drinking them with little to no noticable effect.

Any help would be great!

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You will be fine. If it helps you stay away from more destructive foods have at it. If I drink a lot of it though I tend to get a little bloated. Other than that you will be fine.
 



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Are there any diet sodas out there that do not contain aspartame (Nutrasweet)? I have read articles and seen a documentary (Sweet Misery: A Poisoned World) that indicate aspartame has some unhealthy risks and can for some people have dangerous side effects. And I am not talking about people with phenylketonuria. These side effects can manifest themselves in normal people as well.

I love diet soda, but after doing a bit of researching I am now wary of consuming it very often.
 
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Moderation is the key here much like everything. As long as you don't indulge in 1 pack (12 cans) each day for months on end you will be fine. They did have a study done, I believe by Perdue, indicating that when injesting diet drinks, it alters your metabolism (lowers it) so you actually end up gaining weight in the long run. It's the same as drinking water though (0 calories also, lower metabolism), so I see the smoke, but no fire.
 
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Diet Rite soda's contain Splenda. I prefer the tangerine.
 



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Diet soda usually has a PH of 3, which is insanely acidic. This won't help you're body maintain a more akaline balance.


The long term saftey of artificial sugars like aspartame is still questionable.


Diet soda's contain flouride which depletes your body of iodine. When you're deficient in iodine, your body can't manufacture T3, and your thyroid goes to hell.



Worst case senario you're looking at:


Cancer someday
A slow thyroid = fat gain
Fake sugars that spike insulin a bit = fat gain
Very acidic = stomach indigestion, disgestion problems, etc
 



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Diet Rite soda's contain Splenda. I prefer the tangerine.

Yes! Diet Rite has a slew of soda's with no aspartame. I also believe Coke makes a Diet Coke Splenda version.
 



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]Diet soda's contain flouride which depletes your body of iodine. When you're deficient in iodine, your body can't manufacture T3, and your thyroid goes to hell.
As does tapwater.

Seriously, like i said, (almost) everything in moderation.
 
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Are there any diet sodas out there that do not contain aspartame (Nutrasweet)? I have read articles and seen a documentary (Sweet Misery: A Poisoned World) that indicate aspartame has some unhealthy risks and can for some people have dangerous side effects. And I am not talking about people with phenylketonuria. These side effects can manifest themselves in normal people as well.

I love diet soda, but after doing a bit of researching I am now wary of consuming it very often.
most of the studies I have read about the dangers of diet sodas have been from rat trials. And what the scientist did was ingect the rats with aspartame and see what happens. They said that it was a carcinogen. The kicker is that the amount ingected were equivalent to drinking 800 diet sodas a day for a human. So yeah just like anything else it has a toxic level. Just like advil. Or booze. Or anything.

I mean dont get me wrong though. I find it hard to beleive that I am just putting something into my body and its doing nothing...i mean I guess its possible but it must do something. But normal intake shouldnt be an issue just dont hook yourself up to an IV.
 



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But normal intake shouldnt be an issue just dont hook yourself up to an IV.
LOL. But how would you define normal intake? In the documentary Sweet Misery, a woman who drank 6-8 cans of diet soda everyday developed serious health problems. I realize there are thousands, if not millions, of people out there who consume as much everyday and not develop problems, but since the methanol from aspartame is converted to formaldehyde and then formic acid (both of which seriously cannot be good for you), I am lowering my consumption from 2-3 sodas a day to maybe one or two week. Hell, I might even cut them out completely and make my own drinks with Splenda or stevia. I just get tired of water. When you drink a couple gallons a day, sometimes you just crave something with a little TASTE.
 
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Splenda

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Diet Rite soda's contain Splenda. I prefer the tangerine.
WOW I had no idea. I gave up looking for alternative. Thanx Bluedevil
 



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LOL. But how would you define normal intake? In the documentary Sweet Misery, a woman who drank 6-8 cans of diet soda everyday developed serious health problems. I realize there are thousands, if not millions, of people out there who consume as much everyday and not develop problems, but since the methanol from aspartame is converted to formaldehyde and then formic acid (both of which seriously cannot be good for you), I am lowering my consumption from 2-3 sodas a day to maybe one or two week. Hell, I might even cut them out completely and make my own drinks with Splenda or stevia. I just get tired of water. When you drink a couple gallons a day, sometimes you just crave something with a little TASTE.
I know she had serious health problems. But everyone can have an adverse reaction differently them somebody else. For her that was the upper level, for someone else maybe not. Some people's bodies can tolerate different lifestyles. I knew a guy who smoked everyday...rediculous amounts mind you and he is old as hell now and doctors cant find anything wrong with him..of course he looks like **** but thats a different story. Or my buddy who is nothing short of an alcoholic yet his liver enzymes of his blood work looked fine. Always exceptions...
 



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WOW I had no idea. I gave up looking for alternative. Thanx Bluedevil
No problem, spent quite a while searching myself.
 



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i limit myself to one soda a week and when i do its a diet. it took a long time of cutting back. its almost like smoking, you cut down until you get comfortable. i really had such an addiction to dr pep that i couldnt just stop completely. i had to cut down to one a day, then every two days.... so on. now im one diet soda a week
 
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i stay clear of all kinds of soda. I'll only drink something fizzy if its like a cider. but thats very rare
 



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ill try to find the study but theres an intresting one on carbonated drinks in general. stating that the carbination is the actual enemy.
 
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