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    i could not even get through this entire thread because of all the retarded posts from people critiquing Phelp's diet. The guy has 2 eat immense amounts of food. He has won 8 gold medals. **** he practically has a throne next to Zues on mount Olympus. I know that no one on this board trains like he does, if you did you would be on a different board. Actually you wouldnt even be killing time on any board.

    bottom line I would listen to Phelps about health/diet/excercise before i listened to anybody on here. **** i would listen to him about anything before i listened to anyone on here.

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    ok. lance armstrong said (one account) that he did about 3k/day normally & did 6k when competing. thats probably a good amount of carbs for a thin guy looking to have alot of endurance. he inferred it was quality food as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCasino View Post
    Very true. My university has a D1 swim team, and I am close friends with several of the guys on it. These guys eat complete **** and are all shredded with abs jutting out. They all eat fast food like McDonalds, Burger King, etc to get in those calorie #s. Their coach encourages them to eat Kraft Mac n' Cheese, pizza, cookies, etc. Obviously this is complete crap food, but it works for them because they spend hours in the pool everyday.... often they have 2 practice sessions day, morning & night, so you figure they are burning up a massive amount of calories. Before big meets they go on a "carb up" and go as a team to some place with ****ty junk food just to load up on cals, and they do well @ their meets so it is working for them.
    damn, I need to take up swimming.
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    Bottom line...if Phelps was eating 12000 calories a day(especially what that guy listed he was eating) he would go around sweating and farting all day. In fact, he'd probably spend most of the day on the toilet or either being bloated.

    No way he takes in anymore than 4000 to 6000 calories a day during "intense" training. When not training, if he takes in more than 3000 to 3500 a day a man his weight would start storing small amounts of body fat.

    Phelps was probably having fun with someone. Either that, or he's a genius. I can see it now..future generations of fat swimmers chow down everywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by b unit View Post
    i honestly think phelps is just "working" the media and probably having a great laugh over how they've fallen for his B.S.

    I tend to agree. I heard on TV how he told them he drinks 1000 calories in energy drinks for lunch everyday, and about the same for breakfast.

    A normal can of Monster Energy (green can) has 200 calories. 54 grams of simple sugar. And around 200mg of caffeine plus a lot of other things per serving.

    10-20 of these everyday?? Drinking energy drinks for extra calories??? Wouldn't that BURN extra calories?? Just doesn't make sense... adrenal fatigue, overstimulation, burnout, damage to kidney/liver functioning....all doesn't add up IMO. Sounds like a bunch of BS.
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    That nutritionist that was quoted in the article is an idiot, did anyone catch this statement:

    "The carbs is what the body uses for energy. You have to give the body glucose to fuel it. That’s why people on the Atkins diet (an all-protein diet) can’t work-out.”

    There are a TON of BB'ers that run keto diets and do just fine without carbs, it sucks at the beginning but once your body switches to using fats for fuel its fine. Plus the atkins is not all protein like she said, the majority of it is fat with the rest being protein. I also dont believe the energy drink consumption, drink 5-16oz energy drinks and pretty sure you wouldnt being feeling too great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nate Dawg View Post
    That nutritionist that was quoted in the article is an idiot, did anyone catch this statement:

    "The carbs is what the body uses for energy. You have to give the body glucose to fuel it. Thatís why people on the Atkins diet (an all-protein diet) canít work-out.Ē

    There are a TON of BB'ers that run keto diets and do just fine without carbs, it sucks at the beginning but once your body switches to using fats for fuel its fine. Plus the atkins is not all protein like she said, the majority of it is fat with the rest being protein. I also dont believe the energy drink consumption, drink 5-16oz energy drinks and pretty sure you wouldnt being feeling too great.
    I agree shes an idiot, but for high intensity workouts like swimming, fueling off fats is not optimal. If Phelps went Atkins, keto or CKD, his performance would probably suffer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobInKuwait View Post
    I agree shes an idiot, but for high intensity workouts like swimming, fueling off fats is not optimal. If Phelps went Atkins, keto or CKD, his performance would probably suffer.
    If the intesnity is to high fat cannot be adequately used as fuel as it cannot be broken down fast enough to meet energy requirements.

    And yeah, there's no way Phelps could be anywhere near as competitive on the Atkins diet. You are right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nate Dawg View Post
    That nutritionist that was quoted in the article is an idiot, did anyone catch this statement:

    "The carbs is what the body uses for energy. You have to give the body glucose to fuel it. Thatís why people on the Atkins diet (an all-protein diet) canít work-out.Ē

    There are a TON of BB'ers that run keto diets and do just fine without carbs, it sucks at the beginning but once your body switches to using fats for fuel its fine. Plus the atkins is not all protein like she said, the majority of it is fat with the rest being protein. I also dont believe the energy drink consumption, drink 5-16oz energy drinks and pretty sure you wouldnt being feeling too great.
    If the exercise intensity is too high, fat cannot be oxidised quick enough to be the sole provider of energy. Not sure what intensity his swimming his but i'm guessing it's pretty high....say 70 volume max - if this was the case fat could contribute to about 20% of his energy needs...at best.
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    Im fully aware that the atkins diet is not optimal for his application, she said it like people on the atkins cant even do a workout. Anywho...
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    Quote Originally Posted by buff18 View Post
    Bottom line...if Phelps was eating 12000 calories a day(especially what that guy listed he was eating) he would go around sweating and farting all day. In fact, he'd probably spend most of the day on the toilet or either being bloated.
    Bottom line? Come on. Digestive responses to food is highly dependent on the type of food and the individual. How con you say conclusively that he would get gas and the sweats?

    Quote Originally Posted by buff18 View Post
    No way he takes in anymore than 4000 to 6000 calories a day during "intense" training. When not training, if he takes in more than 3000 to 3500 a day a man his weight would start storing small amounts of body fat.
    Please educate yourself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_energy
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    I simply believe he might be reaching 9K, and that he is pushing extremes. but at the same time this is damaging his body, and he will wear down fast. Dont expect him to be doing this a couple years down the road....
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    He's been doing this his whole life, I think he knows what he's doing. Who cares if he eats 3000 calories, or 20,000 calories a day. He put on the greatest athletic display any of us will probably ever witness in our lifetimes. He also trains at a level that is incomprehensable to about 99.9% of the world (swimming and weight training), and has freakish genetics, so 12K a day isn't out of the question. We all know "that guy" who can eat whatever the hell he wants to and stays lean. Phelps is "that guy" but with probably one of the most physically demanding training schedules on planet earth.

    Also I find it funny that people are saying "he's gonna damage his body". Look at where we are posting; an online community that takes 100's of supplements with no science behind them, and that advocates the use of anabolics for the responsible individual.
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    i couldn't imagine how many times a day he must have to use the restroom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nate Dawg View Post
    Im fully aware that the atkins diet is not optimal for his application, she said it like people on the atkins cant even do a workout. Anywho...
    I never read what she said.

    My bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mister ed View Post
    i couldn't imagine how many times a day he must have to use the restroom.

    ....wow that must be worse than prison, can you imagine 12,000 cals coming out your rear, it would me like a castle keep...
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    i don't get where this 12,000 calorie figure comes from anyways, in the only extended segment the olympics had regarding his diet, he said his diet was only (ha, only) 8,000-10,000 calories per day. I never heard him or anyone in that segment mention the number 12,000 in terms of calories.

    Not long after, Costas was all like 12,000 this, 12,000 that... I don't know where he got that number from, seeing how he was the one doing the segment where phelps himself said 8,000-10,000...
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    On a super bulk I would only hit.....4500....and probably would struggle to even accomplish it......i duno....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero V View Post
    On a super bulk I would only hit.....4500....and probably would struggle to even accomplish it......i duno....

    Again, its apples and oranges you're comparing here. You are 140 lbs. He is closer to 200 pounds. You're in great shape, but not an elite athlete. He is arguably the greatest athlete of all time and clearly a genetic monster. Your diet is geared towards putting on muscle. His diet, which I'm sure is not year-round as was stated, is geared towards maximizing his athletic performance, as he was swimming almost 20 races in about a week.

    I don't know if you are actually 140lbs, just going by your avatar haha
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    Either way 8K or 12K the dude swims for HOURS per day.

    Please tell me that ANY of you have come to even near half that with effort the whole time. Sh!t... I get tired just sitting in the pool for a while.

    I mean come on.... 4 hours of swimming... thats like...... 38hrs on a fat woman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitrox View Post
    Bottom line? Come on. Digestive responses to food is highly dependent on the type of food and the individual. How con you say conclusively that he would get gas and the sweats?



    Please educate yourself: Energy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia , Food energy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    (especially what that guy listed he was eating) This is just a message board don't take things so seriously, I can't come up with a scientific conclusion with what little information is given anyways. Neither can you. Did you miss what they said he was eating? If you think Phelps is eating that and not having some "digestive" issues then your fooling yourself. Maybe I extragerrated on the being on the ****ter all day...but he would take dumps quite often, and for a 165 pound man to eat that much and have that much waste in him while training would be counter productive.That would slow anyone down. No way he eats like THAT. And "sweating and farting" come man...never heard that used together? Howard Stern, anyone? Nothing scientific about what I said. Remember the famous quote from JFK?

    "Of course they can prove it. Theoretical physics can also prove that an elephant can hang off a cliff with its tail tied to a daisy! But use your eyes, your common sense."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabisco View Post
    I used to be a swimmer, and I had to eat 4000+ calories to maintain a bodyweight of 150lbs at 5'11. And that was heavily loaded towards carbs. Otherwise I couldn't perform to the degree required of me.

    In college my girlfriend was on our D1 swim team and she ate like absolute **** just to maintain herself at a reasonable weight. I kid you not, the guys on her team drank like fish, ate whatever they could force down their mouths, and didn't care what it was as long as it was food. And the majority of them were lean and cut. Because they were swimming two a day practices 3 times a week, and the other 3 days per week that the practiced was one pool workout and one "dry land" workout (calisthenics or weight training). They could consume upwards of 6-7k calories per day without batting an eyelash.

    Swimming is an intense sport that requires a large caloric expenditure, hence their ability to eat large quantities of food and stay lean.

    Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's a healthy diet for them in any way. Because when they stop swimming they have issues adjusting to everyday life (food-wise). For instance, my ex-gf who was the D1 swimmer, put on a sizeable amount of weight after she graduated due to her eating habits that were perfectly ok when she was swimming incredible amounts.

    The disbelief that he requires that many calories is ignorant, due to most of you not realizing the caloric expenditure that comes from swimming. Phelps swims 4800 meters in the morning to "warm up", thats 3 miles gents. I'm not surprised he has to eat 10k+ calories to maintain his body DURING the Olympics. I don't believe he eats like this every day. I think this is geared towards keeping him flush with energy during the multitude of events he's swimming in such a short period of time.

    completely agree
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    yes he can eat like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabisco View Post
    I used to be a swimmer, and I had to eat 4000+ calories to maintain a bodyweight of 150lbs at 5'11. And that was heavily loaded towards carbs. Otherwise I couldn't perform to the degree required of me.

    In college my girlfriend was on our D1 swim team and she ate like absolute **** just to maintain herself at a reasonable weight. I kid you not, the guys on her team drank like fish, ate whatever they could force down their mouths, and didn't care what it was as long as it was food. And the majority of them were lean and cut. Because they were swimming two a day practices 3 times a week, and the other 3 days per week that the practiced was one pool workout and one "dry land" workout (calisthenics or weight training). They could consume upwards of 6-7k calories per day without batting an eyelash.

    Swimming is an intense sport that requires a large caloric expenditure, hence their ability to eat large quantities of food and stay lean.

    Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's a healthy diet for them in any way. Because when they stop swimming they have issues adjusting to everyday life (food-wise). For instance, my ex-gf who was the D1 swimmer, put on a sizeable amount of weight after she graduated due to her eating habits that were perfectly ok when she was swimming incredible amounts.

    The disbelief that he requires that many calories is ignorant, due to most of you not realizing the caloric expenditure that comes from swimming. Phelps swims 4800 meters in the morning to "warm up", thats 3 miles gents. I'm not surprised he has to eat 10k+ calories to maintain his body DURING the Olympics. I don't believe he eats like this every day. I think this is geared towards keeping him flush with energy during the multitude of events he's swimming in such a short period of time.
    exactly
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    Quote Originally Posted by bkoguy07 View Post
    All I'm saying is he's not that impressive looks wise and prol half this site impresses me more... Hell I don't even think he's that "healthy" on the inside. All that food especially that kind can't be good.
    lol, you think he gives a **** about how he looks?? The guy has 15 gold medals and is a multi-millionaire at age 23. He has a better physique than 75% of this board.

    He burns cals like a mother****er. You people don't know what you're talking about. He trains more intensely in one day than how much some of you and I train in a month. It is very possible that he eats 10,000 cals a day with how hard he trains.
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    all i know is it takes me munching all day just to eat 3200+ good calories, and then i have too poop like every couple of hours, i can't imagine eating 3x more than that in a day, much less being able to train when having to use the bathroom that often... the shortest way to get to 10k Calories would be to eat ****ty food, but that's still over 20 quarter pounders for reference! FIVE POUNDS OF BEEF + 20 BUNS, and 20 times all the toppings I don't know anyone, no matter how fit who could eat that kind of food, in that quantity. period.

    In my opinion if it sounds too good, or too crazy to be true, it usually is. This doesn't qualify as an exception, to me.
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    i dont wanna sound like a idiot but any1 notice his huge jaw (HGH maybe...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by jay21 View Post
    i dont wanna sound like a idiot but any1 notice his huge jaw (HGH maybe...)
    wouldn't that affect his head size, hand size, and feet size as well? perhaps jay leno is taking hgh too then.
  

  
 

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