michael phelps: how is this possible?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by SpargelJanusz View Post
    Sorry, but this is complete BS, 17k calories in less than 20 hours.

    Same for the 12k of Phelps. He'd be consuming more cal than your average sumo wrestler.

    Chuck Liddell, MMA great and certainly someone who knows about intense training said in an interview he needs to consume 4,200 or 4,400 kcal to maintain his weight. He walks around at about 220 pounds.

    So Phelps almost eats almost three times as much???

    Camon, people, this is crap.
    Using Chuck Liddell as an example does not help your cause. Liddell and sound nutrition is an oxymoron.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Using Chuck Liddell as an example does not help your cause. Liddell and sound nutrition is an oxymoron.
    Ditto izza:
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  3. wow we are still arguing about this...we all could do half of that easily on ****ty food and most of us don't train over 2hrs a day including cardio. hell i don't even do cardio and i have to eat like a horse just to maintain my weight.

    anyone remember the meal 1-10 from mcdonalds thread...did that tool ever do it cause i don't know...and i am sure he was a nobody. what about competition eaters that can eat like 10lbs of food in one sitting. sure its not healthy but can easily be done!

  4. elite athlete. Crazy genetics. Trains incredibly hard...this isnt that out of countrol. Athletes eat different then bodybuilders like most of the people are around here. This man dominates world competition, and people are shocked when he can consume a ton of kcals? It isnt that big of a deal or even that unthinkable.

  5. i'm still skeptical, although it seems feasible he could do ALOT of calories during competition especially. i don't think that eating all crap & energy drinks is the only way to get the calories at all. in fact, that's gonna be alot of empty cals that could be easier thrown down as optimal calorie dense ones. it is true he is young & can get away with alot too. i think i'll try to find out how many cals Lance Armstrong does! here's some insights into his training:

    http://www.gametimeworkouts.com/2008...el-phelps.html

    http://www.gametimeworkouts.com/2008...out-video.html
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  6. Is it wrong to become ravenously hungry for junk food after reading about his diet? I better take a walk before I do something stupid!

  7. Quote Originally Posted by julius kelp View Post
    i'm still skeptical, although it seems feasible he could do ALOT of calories during competition especially. i don't think that eating all crap & energy drinks is the only way to get the calories at all. in fact, that's gonna be alot of empty cals that could be easier thrown down as optimal calorie dense ones. it is true he is young & can get away with alot too. i think i'll try to find out how many cals Lance Armstrong does! here's some insights into his training:

    http://www.gametimeworkouts.com/2008...el-phelps.html

    http://www.gametimeworkouts.com/2008...out-video.html
    Your right on one point, but if your talking about a body builder who has TIME TO SIT BACK and strategically plan each meal, and who trains 3 hours a day, getting ready for 2-3 events per year, then yes; however, when you are an Olympic athlete, who trains hours, upon hours a day, and swims in multiple events EVERY year, all year, then the op to strategically plan calorie dense meals goes out the window, to say the least. I doubt he eats this way during the Olympics, but Im sure it's close...
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  8. Hell, I can remember when I was a sprinter in HS and College, I ate about 6k on some days just to maintain energy due to a severely over active metabolism. We'd train 3 sessions a day, and those were 400 meter sessions which lasted for 2-3 hours, which also includes short sprints and weight lifting 5 days a week. 6k a about 4 days a week, and I was walking around at 150ish
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  9. Of course I believe he eats 10 k per day, provided he's doing hours upon hours of training.You have too. and with all that activity the junk food doesn't effect you like it would if you weren't doing it.

    does he do this year round? No I'm sure he gives himself a break from training and eats clean> I was out tonight at a sports bar with a friend and saw him, he is in good condition. Nice back
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  10. Bottom line, easily doable for phelps.

    And what is this with criticizing his body. WTF? I dont care if he is a fat ass, his athleticism is unmatched... regardless if he is raging 19+ guns.

    This is just ridiculous. Always something to ***** about.

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  11. i could not even get through this entire thread because of all the retarded posts from people critiquing Phelp's diet. The guy has 2 eat immense amounts of food. He has won 8 gold medals. **** he practically has a throne next to Zues on mount Olympus. I know that no one on this board trains like he does, if you did you would be on a different board. Actually you wouldnt even be killing time on any board.

    bottom line I would listen to Phelps about health/diet/excercise before i listened to anybody on here. **** i would listen to him about anything before i listened to anyone on here.

  12. ok. lance armstrong said (one account) that he did about 3k/day normally & did 6k when competing. thats probably a good amount of carbs for a thin guy looking to have alot of endurance. he inferred it was quality food as well.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by BigCasino View Post
    Very true. My university has a D1 swim team, and I am close friends with several of the guys on it. These guys eat complete **** and are all shredded with abs jutting out. They all eat fast food like McDonalds, Burger King, etc to get in those calorie #s. Their coach encourages them to eat Kraft Mac n' Cheese, pizza, cookies, etc. Obviously this is complete crap food, but it works for them because they spend hours in the pool everyday.... often they have 2 practice sessions day, morning & night, so you figure they are burning up a massive amount of calories. Before big meets they go on a "carb up" and go as a team to some place with ****ty junk food just to load up on cals, and they do well @ their meets so it is working for them.
    damn, I need to take up swimming.

  14. Bottom line...if Phelps was eating 12000 calories a day(especially what that guy listed he was eating) he would go around sweating and farting all day. In fact, he'd probably spend most of the day on the toilet or either being bloated.

    No way he takes in anymore than 4000 to 6000 calories a day during "intense" training. When not training, if he takes in more than 3000 to 3500 a day a man his weight would start storing small amounts of body fat.

    Phelps was probably having fun with someone. Either that, or he's a genius. I can see it now..future generations of fat swimmers chow down everywhere.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by b unit View Post
    i honestly think phelps is just "working" the media and probably having a great laugh over how they've fallen for his B.S.

    I tend to agree. I heard on TV how he told them he drinks 1000 calories in energy drinks for lunch everyday, and about the same for breakfast.

    A normal can of Monster Energy (green can) has 200 calories. 54 grams of simple sugar. And around 200mg of caffeine plus a lot of other things per serving.

    10-20 of these everyday?? Drinking energy drinks for extra calories??? Wouldn't that BURN extra calories?? Just doesn't make sense... adrenal fatigue, overstimulation, burnout, damage to kidney/liver functioning....all doesn't add up IMO. Sounds like a bunch of BS.

  16. That nutritionist that was quoted in the article is an idiot, did anyone catch this statement:

    "The carbs is what the body uses for energy. You have to give the body glucose to fuel it. That’s why people on the Atkins diet (an all-protein diet) can’t work-out.”

    There are a TON of BB'ers that run keto diets and do just fine without carbs, it sucks at the beginning but once your body switches to using fats for fuel its fine. Plus the atkins is not all protein like she said, the majority of it is fat with the rest being protein. I also dont believe the energy drink consumption, drink 5-16oz energy drinks and pretty sure you wouldnt being feeling too great.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Nate Dawg View Post
    That nutritionist that was quoted in the article is an idiot, did anyone catch this statement:

    "The carbs is what the body uses for energy. You have to give the body glucose to fuel it. Thatís why people on the Atkins diet (an all-protein diet) canít work-out.Ē

    There are a TON of BB'ers that run keto diets and do just fine without carbs, it sucks at the beginning but once your body switches to using fats for fuel its fine. Plus the atkins is not all protein like she said, the majority of it is fat with the rest being protein. I also dont believe the energy drink consumption, drink 5-16oz energy drinks and pretty sure you wouldnt being feeling too great.
    I agree shes an idiot, but for high intensity workouts like swimming, fueling off fats is not optimal. If Phelps went Atkins, keto or CKD, his performance would probably suffer.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by RobInKuwait View Post
    I agree shes an idiot, but for high intensity workouts like swimming, fueling off fats is not optimal. If Phelps went Atkins, keto or CKD, his performance would probably suffer.
    If the intesnity is to high fat cannot be adequately used as fuel as it cannot be broken down fast enough to meet energy requirements.

    And yeah, there's no way Phelps could be anywhere near as competitive on the Atkins diet. You are right.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Nate Dawg View Post
    That nutritionist that was quoted in the article is an idiot, did anyone catch this statement:

    "The carbs is what the body uses for energy. You have to give the body glucose to fuel it. Thatís why people on the Atkins diet (an all-protein diet) canít work-out.Ē

    There are a TON of BB'ers that run keto diets and do just fine without carbs, it sucks at the beginning but once your body switches to using fats for fuel its fine. Plus the atkins is not all protein like she said, the majority of it is fat with the rest being protein. I also dont believe the energy drink consumption, drink 5-16oz energy drinks and pretty sure you wouldnt being feeling too great.
    If the exercise intensity is too high, fat cannot be oxidised quick enough to be the sole provider of energy. Not sure what intensity his swimming his but i'm guessing it's pretty high....say 70 volume max - if this was the case fat could contribute to about 20% of his energy needs...at best.

  20. Im fully aware that the atkins diet is not optimal for his application, she said it like people on the atkins cant even do a workout. Anywho...

  21. Quote Originally Posted by buff18 View Post
    Bottom line...if Phelps was eating 12000 calories a day(especially what that guy listed he was eating) he would go around sweating and farting all day. In fact, he'd probably spend most of the day on the toilet or either being bloated.
    Bottom line? Come on. Digestive responses to food is highly dependent on the type of food and the individual. How con you say conclusively that he would get gas and the sweats?

    Quote Originally Posted by buff18 View Post
    No way he takes in anymore than 4000 to 6000 calories a day during "intense" training. When not training, if he takes in more than 3000 to 3500 a day a man his weight would start storing small amounts of body fat.
    Please educate yourself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_energy

  22. I simply believe he might be reaching 9K, and that he is pushing extremes. but at the same time this is damaging his body, and he will wear down fast. Dont expect him to be doing this a couple years down the road....

  23. He's been doing this his whole life, I think he knows what he's doing. Who cares if he eats 3000 calories, or 20,000 calories a day. He put on the greatest athletic display any of us will probably ever witness in our lifetimes. He also trains at a level that is incomprehensable to about 99.9% of the world (swimming and weight training), and has freakish genetics, so 12K a day isn't out of the question. We all know "that guy" who can eat whatever the hell he wants to and stays lean. Phelps is "that guy" but with probably one of the most physically demanding training schedules on planet earth.

    Also I find it funny that people are saying "he's gonna damage his body". Look at where we are posting; an online community that takes 100's of supplements with no science behind them, and that advocates the use of anabolics for the responsible individual.

  24. i couldn't imagine how many times a day he must have to use the restroom.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Nate Dawg View Post
    Im fully aware that the atkins diet is not optimal for his application, she said it like people on the atkins cant even do a workout. Anywho...
    I never read what she said.

    My bad.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by mister ed View Post
    i couldn't imagine how many times a day he must have to use the restroom.

    ....wow that must be worse than prison, can you imagine 12,000 cals coming out your rear, it would me like a castle keep...

  27. i don't get where this 12,000 calorie figure comes from anyways, in the only extended segment the olympics had regarding his diet, he said his diet was only (ha, only) 8,000-10,000 calories per day. I never heard him or anyone in that segment mention the number 12,000 in terms of calories.

    Not long after, Costas was all like 12,000 this, 12,000 that... I don't know where he got that number from, seeing how he was the one doing the segment where phelps himself said 8,000-10,000...

  28. On a super bulk I would only hit.....4500....and probably would struggle to even accomplish it......i duno....

  29. Quote Originally Posted by Zero V View Post
    On a super bulk I would only hit.....4500....and probably would struggle to even accomplish it......i duno....

    Again, its apples and oranges you're comparing here. You are 140 lbs. He is closer to 200 pounds. You're in great shape, but not an elite athlete. He is arguably the greatest athlete of all time and clearly a genetic monster. Your diet is geared towards putting on muscle. His diet, which I'm sure is not year-round as was stated, is geared towards maximizing his athletic performance, as he was swimming almost 20 races in about a week.

    I don't know if you are actually 140lbs, just going by your avatar haha

  30. Either way 8K or 12K the dude swims for HOURS per day.

    Please tell me that ANY of you have come to even near half that with effort the whole time. Sh!t... I get tired just sitting in the pool for a while.

    I mean come on.... 4 hours of swimming... thats like...... 38hrs on a fat woman.

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