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Old 07-02-2008, 10:02 PM   #31
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Tsk, tsk, tsk. Why bother posting in a thread where people who like ap and want ap, can be informed on a nice sale and jump on the deal if they want to. So what if ap didnt work for you or your friends, not everyone responds to every product the same way, it works for me, it works for lots of other people, take the hate someplace else please and leave this thread for people who like ap. Thank you.
 



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Old 07-02-2008, 10:13 PM   #32
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Why not let people see the other side and judge for themselves..
Personally I wouldn't trust a company that has consistently been called out by highly respected and regarded people in the bodybuilding community. Also besides sponsored athletes I haven't seen anyone with a strong physique praise this product in fact its always been the opposite.

USPLabs seems to have a near 50% rate of responders to responders on AP... nice product. They have failed to show real significant studies on most of their products... AP included.

I guess I should let them believe the hype that PASTA and AP will product gains as powerful as STEROIDS!!! As their ads claim!
 
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Why not let people see the other side and judge for themselves..
Personally I wouldn't trust a company that has consistently been called out by highly respected and regarded people in the bodybuilding community. Also besides sponsored athletes I haven't seen anyone with a strong physique praise this product in fact its always been the opposite.

USPLabs seems to have a near 50% rate of responders to responders on AP... nice product. They have failed to show real significant studies on most of their products... AP included.

I guess I should let them believe the hype that PASTA and AP will product gains as powerful as STEROIDS!!! As their ads claim!
Dude, you are not repeating anything New to the member of AnablicMinds. THey are fully aware of this fact and in fact, they been aware for over 18 months. You are not whispering a secret or is it "breaking News" so move on.

Anabolic Pump has been in the top 10 sales at NP. The fastest growing internet store since it's release. A bad product just goes away, but AP is always breaking new ground.

Disgruntled competitors, I love'em and just validates our success!

If you acutally read the advertisment beyond the headline, you would not come off as such a dummy.

The headline is a question "can you turn ordinary chicken and pasta into steroids?"....A question and if you bothered to read further, You would not make such a foolish statement.

A headline is 99% of the reason if an advertisement is read or just passed over. We have to grab your attention and in your case, we have because you remember the headline. The headline is genius because it's repeated over and over and over again.

About the science..ahhaha, Mullet will be over soon to school.

I want even touch on you commenting on the physiques of others because you made yourself look real bad with any help from the audience...
 
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Is that guy still here???

He's like a protein fart in a elevator.

PISS-OFF for christ's sake!
 




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Old 07-02-2008, 11:11 PM   #35
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mburr not everything works for everyone. I myself have had great success with AP in the fact that it keeps my muscles full as well as keeps my strength up during a cutting phase (i have not used it yet to bulk). This to me is well worth the cost as being flat and weak during carb restricted days sucks a$$. Bottom line is you don't have to like it but why come into a thread that is simply advertising a sale on a product and do nothing but bash the product. What was the meaning of you viewing this thread if you don't like AP?
 
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I'll go on to further say:

Derek AKA: Beast REGULARLY consumed 300-400g of carbohydrates when dieting and attaining 3-4-5% bf. Insulin issues I think not!

Three weeks? Whoa! Awsome persistence and commitment to a trail. That was more like a sample.

Someone like him is not in need of something like anabolic pump. Thats like driving a Ferari and claiming that you have some form of fuel additive that will make it run better. Please?

As for the marketing and naming convention. Jacob can do what he wants. I don't agree with some of it. Yet it is a success. How many sponsors on this board or any other are in Vitaminshopp or GNC or any other mainstream retailer? Go ahead count. Does his marketing stratgey suite me. Not so much. Does it work in promoting a product and making a global market impact. Yes. Does anabolic pump work for those with inuslin issues that do not have tremendous genetics and already efficient insulin management systems within their own genetic make up. Yes, remarkably well for someone who is an insulin resistant endo.

The motives of those posts/links are supported with theories that have tremendous holes in them.

3 weeks use of AP in a well trained professional BB with freak genetics is not going to be the same as someone who is struggling to transform his physiology. AnabolicPump has transfromed processing insulin for me at a physiological level. Had my body been already adept to doing so I image I would see little to no results as did Derek.

USPLabs marketing is his business. Like I said, I don't agree with all of it, and I don't have to. The products' effectiveness sells me on my use. There really are people who have an agenda...they are called competition! If Jacob wants to sell at almost free of charge or even give it away free of charge I'm in. And I will continue to buy if and when I need to.

By the way, I don't listen to Jacob. Mulletsoldier is the way I roll!!!
 



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Dude, you are not repeating anything New to the member of AnablicMinds. THey are fully aware of this fact and in fact, they been aware for over 18 months. You are not whispering a secret or is it "breaking News" so move on.

Anabolic Pump has been in the top 10 sales at NP. The fastest growing internet store since it's release. A bad product just goes away, but AP is always breaking new ground.

Disgruntled competitors, I love'em and just validates our success!

If you acutally read the advertisment beyond the headline, you would not come off as such a dummy.

The headline is a question "can you turn ordinary chicken and pasta into steroids?"....A question and if you bothered to read further, You would not make such a foolish statement.

A headline is 99% of the reason if an advertisement is read or just passed over. We have to grab your attention and in your case, we have because you remember the headline. The headline is genius because it's repeated over and over and over again.

About the science..ahhaha, Mullet will be over soon to school.

I want even touch on you commenting on the physiques of others because you made yourself look real bad with any help from the audience...
That's all that really needs to be said... LOL!
I agree with the statements above 100%
 



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Old 07-03-2008, 10:56 PM   #38
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Why not let people see the other side and judge for themselves..
Personally I wouldn't trust a company that has consistently been called out by highly respected and regarded people in the bodybuilding community. Also besides sponsored athletes I haven't seen anyone with a strong physique praise this product in fact its always been the opposite.
This is somewhat of an oxymoron - being sponsored makes one's opinion irrelevant by proxy? In reality, our athletes are the biggest testament to our products for the following reason: in almost every respect, they approached us, with a priori knowledge and experience with our products. They wished to be sponsored because of the high-quality nature of our products; if they did not work for natural athletes, why would they request sponsorship?

This, however, does nothing to address your comment of unsolicited opinions. This is merely one such instance - a moderator, unaffiliated, and with a strong physique no less - which directly contradicts your opinion:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/worko...traplanet.html

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This is probably the most glaringly false piece of information in this entire post; rather than hand-feed you the information, an incredibly quick search will provide a large data I alone have provided on this board.

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The comparison is a hyperbolic analogy - that is, a dramatic comparison highlighting the most positive aspects of the product. The allusion is one of maximizing nutrients beyond natural capacity to produce expedited gains in LBM.
 



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The comparison is a hyperbolic analogy - that is, a dramatic comparison highlighting the most positive aspects of the product. The allusion is one of maximizing nutrients beyond natural capacity to produce expedited gains in LBM.
I'll be honest, I don't get huge pumps from AP, especially on a single meal. My physique isn't rapidly shredding up beyond belief, and I can't eat endless gobs of carbs and feel absolutely great. I also personally believe the man in the before and after pics in the AP write up probably trained harder than the avg. gym rat & used other potent supplements (possibly steroids too) alongside AP. I can say however, that I can eat significantly more carbs than usual during the course of my day with less bloat and lethargy, and that if I manage to actually get in a full 3 doses correctly timed, I do have a mild but definitely noticeable overall pump by the end of the day comparable to a full body warm up with light weights or thorough cardio session. The bottom line summary from me is:

Yes, AP does work for me. If you ask me, the 50% success rate the pessimist is complaining about is actually pretty good,
I mean, how many natty T boosters get good reps just because they prompt a few extra back zits and hard ons? yet people when reviewing natty T boosters call that proof of effectiveness.
How many people go on methylated steroids that cost at least as much as AP and report 'great' gains of 5-7 lbs? People who have reported success with AP seem to report about as much, and they didn't risk their liver, nuts or hairlines in the process, and any weight they gain won't end up in their breast tissue.
As for the company claims? OF COURSE they're going to display the most dramatic of all results for the write ups. OF COURSE they're going to use grandiose analogies. What do you expect? USP Labs is a company seeking profit like any other.
What do you want them to say?

'you too can gain 4 whole pounds and look slightly leaner in 30 days! Here's a pic of our sponsored user, and, if you squint while looking hard enough, you can see the slight increase in definition he now has!'

do you think you could sell a product consistently using modest claims and avg. looking gym rats in lieu of a fiercely trained, prossibly juiced up athlete looking to go pro? I highly doubt it.

If you're wise enough to be wary of bunk supplements, then you should be intelligent enough to know a company is going to advertise as aggressively as possible in order to reap profits, and take sponsored claims and commercial advertisements with a grain of salt. You can sit here and bash AP all you want, it won't make a bit of difference to the people whom have made progress with it. As you can see, when the stuff is sold at a more favorable price point it's harder to keep in stock than creatine, I think that says something about the success and validity of the product.
 



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Awesome opportunity to stock up on Anabolic Pump! Hank, have you filled your inventory yet?
 
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Awesome opportunity to stock up on Anabolic Pump! Hank, have you filled your inventory yet?

I just stocked up for at least a year!!
 
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I'm an infrequent poster on this board, definitely not sponsored, and I do find the advertising hype from USP Labs to be not to my taste. I strongly dislike the "creative" labeling of the ingredients. (Can anyone tell me definitively if corosolic acid is the active ingredient in AP?)

However, I did my research on AP, and the majority of people, unsponsored and otherwise, seemed to like it (including the t-nation forums). I took it for 3 months after a previous sale, and ended up dropping 8-10 lbs. and over an inch from my waist without altering anything else of significance (and increasing my lift totals).

I think that it does work, but it has a subtle effect. If you aren't "dialed in" to your body, you may not see it. It is easy to feel a mild hypoglycemic effect if taken too long before carb intake, so I am pretty confident that most people could detect that it is beyond placebo effect.

I think that Yellow Gold works just as well, and I just stocked up on both. The AP is for when I need to take an easy to carry capsule (work, restaurant); the YG is "parachuted" when I am home, along with other yucky powders.

If USP's advertising isn't to my tastes, I've got to admit that industry-stalwart companies like Twinlabs and Optimum Nutrition are not exactly blazing exciting new trails with their product introductions. It's the brash companies (also Anabolic Xtreme) that are coming up with interesting innovations.
 
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