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Bulk powders from NP for DCP like fatloss aid

  1.  02-18-2008  01:02 PM
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    Bulk powders from NP for DCP like fatloss aid


    I am going on a cruise in about 7 weeks, and want to tighten up and also be ready for the summer. I've been on a ketogenic diet, and want to excellerate my fatloss even further. I found some bulk powders that I thought would work perfectly for this diet and my goals. I am 5'10'' and weighing in at about 180-185. I don't have a ton of fat to lose, and would guess I'm in the mid-high teens for BF%. I want to get down to about 165-170 or so. My ideal physique would be more like a boxer (winky, hopkins, cotto...) than a BBuilder.

    TTA - 1g a day
    Salvia Miltiorrhiza - 750mg a day
    Raspberry Ketones - 300mg a day

    Synephrine - 50mg a day
    Yohimbine - 7.5mg a day
    Caffeine - as needed, maybe it would be too much.

    Basically, it is like DCP with stims. I think these will work great together while on a ketogenic diet and insulin levels will be low. I just wanted some feedback, input, or advice. Salvia Miltiorrhiza seems to be touted as a recomp type herb, but I haven't found much info on it besides in RPN's write-up. They are reputable, so It made me think I should get it to aid the TTA. Any interactions to watch for, other compounds that might be beneficial or needed? Please let me know, thanks!!!



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    might want to add in ephedrine, depending on your state you can likely buy it locally.
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    If I could, I would love to run an ECA stack, damn meth head!! but don't know about where or how to get it without being shady or getting in trouble. Probably not worth it, but I think NP has a lot of great bulk powders and other things that would work well, if not better, seeing as how I am on a ketogenic diet (CKD). I want to get ripped and look good on the cruise. Living in FL, summer is almost a year round thing.

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    walk into any walgreens or cvs, go over to the allergy/sinus area, and look for the cards of primatene tablets. take one, and walk up to the counter and buy it. simple 60 tabs of 12.5mg ephedrine + 200mg guaifenesin
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    hmm tempting...I'll have to give it a shot. Is it going to be priced sky high? I think 25mg of ephedra was the normal dosage right, 2 or 3 times a day? The guaf or whatever I think helps open up your nasal passages or dialates your bronchial tubes or something? Could too much of this be dangerous or have bas side effects?

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    yeah, 25-37.5 2-3x a day is normal. Basically the guaf is an expectorant, so it helps clear the lungs too. no real downside to it, its mostly there from what I can tell because it does help asthma patients using it, and also messes up the whole crystal meth reaction.

    I'm in florida too, so I know you can just walk in and buy it. you have to be over 18, and show a drivers license. Thats just so they can track it and make sure you aren't buying kilos
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    It's not that expensive - I don't think.
    Bronkaid (or however it's spelled) was like $13 for 60 caps (25 mgs of ephedrine per cap) at one Walgreen I went to.

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    I've tried the eph that is sold over the counter. I've not had any issues.

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    The ephedra is tempting...But I think the TTA and salvia will work great on a ketogenic diet. From what I've read, yohimbine also works really well on a keto diet, as insulin will negate its effects. I don't think it is good to mix ephedra and yohimbine, so its either one or the other.

    Anyone from nutraplanet, or DSADE....

    For the bulk powders, it doesn't say what amount a serving size is. I know that some bulk powders can be measured with 1/4 tsp and 1/2 tsp or whatever, although it is not as precise. Will I need a scale for this, or would I be able to get close enough to the serving size with a standard measuring utensil?

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    tta is 500mg/ 1/4 sp salvia is the same

    RK I can't recall, don't have any on hand.
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    Hmm...might be easier to just get a scale. In DCP I think the salvia in each serving is 250mg. Im not sure what the UL is or max amount that will produce desirable effects. I haven't found too much on it, besides stuff saying its was used in ancient chinese medicine and is an antioxidant. I mean NP only has one size of 75g of it, which will be more than enough.

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    yep, 250 each tta + salvia, 300 PLCAR, 100 RK
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    If you want some good info on Salvia M., read Spook's write up on Avant Labs' PhenoGen.

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    Ive actually put this all together for my wife cept in place of synephrine/caffine shes taking the potent Stim X and instead of yohimbine shes taking forslean.... bout to possibly take lipoderm ultra we already have on hand also though depending on what we hear on her testing napalm, either way shes lost about 20some odd pounds the last month and a half on this stack.

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    I think for Yohimbine to be effective for fatloss you need to be in the .2mg/kg bodyweight range.

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    Originally Posted by Xodus View Post
    I think for Yohimbine to be effective for fatloss you need to be in the .2mg/kg bodyweight range.
    I think thats per day, rather than per dose. Also keep in mind that yohimbine has to be on empty stomach, and food will stop its effect.
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    Originally Posted by Xodus View Post
    I think for Yohimbine to be effective for fatloss you need to be in the .2mg/kg bodyweight range.
    Unless you can't tolerate it that high, that's what I would suggest as well.

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    Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    I think thats per day, rather than per dose. Also keep in mind that yohimbine has to be on empty stomach, and food will stop its effect.
    Absolutely has to be on an empty stomach, which makes it very tough.

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    Originally Posted by rpen22 View Post
    Unless you can't tolerate it that high, that's what I would suggest as well.
    Yeah, I've started to experience some sides, shaking/trembling hands, pressure in my head, at 25mg. 40mg is about the max recommended where hard sides happen, nausea, dizziness, etc.

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    I'm going to bump it tomorrow morning precardio to 15mg. usually just do 10. If that works, then thursday its 17.5

    hmm wait, i've been taking 10mg with 2 leviathan reloaded. nevermind, I think i'm good at 10mg added
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