bulk cissus and bulk 1 carboxy

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i know i know you guys will say search but i have and i cant get any good info on dosing these these items.im 210lbs the cissus is the 50% from nutra. also do i need to add muira puama to get the same effect as powerfull or what. ive used the reg cissus and reg bulk powerfull before but ive heard that i can use less of the new cissus due to its refined state.
 

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