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    $100 - What staples to get?


    Guys, i am about to start my stack of...

    DRIVE/ACT.X/PFULL/INCARNATE, and oddly enough, today i got a refund check that i wasnt expecting. So, im looking to add some staples to my stack for daily use and was curious as to what you guys would get if given $100. Here is what ive chosen thus far.

    *Citrulline malate
    * NA-R-ALA
    * Elastamine (taking this along w/incarnate for my shoulder)

    thinking on the following....
    ? (napalm or lipo-y) ?
    ? (bulk HMB...cost effective)
    ? (ALCAR / PLCAR) ?
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    Already have a decent stock of the following

    bcaa's
    cee
    BA
    yellow gold
    multi's
    fish oil


    thanks

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    The Healthy Cheat Foods Protein Pancake Mix is pretty awesome! Not a supp, but still one of my staples...
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    Beta-Alanine
    Leucine
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    Some decent protein powder.
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    water, whey, multivitamin, antioxidants, creatine monohydrate.

    done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nelix View Post
    Beta-Alanine
    Leucine
    Creatine Gluconate
    ZMK
    MVP-365
    Fish Oil
    Some decent protein powder.
    you think creatine gluconate is a staple over monohydrate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bodybybrad View Post
    you think creatine gluconate is a staple over monohydrate?
    You think it's not?

    Different strokes for different folks, mono makes me look like: :donut:

    Defiantly not a staple for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nelix View Post
    You think it's not?

    Different strokes for different folks, mono makes me look like: :donut:

    Defiantly not a staple for me.
    you think creatine gluconate is that much better than CEE , monohydrate, etc.....I have read some on this, just would like other opinions. I know the price of CG is a little steep....

    thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by msucurt View Post
    you think creatine gluconate is that much better than CEE , monohydrate, etc.....I have read some on this, just would like other opinions. I know the price of CG is a little steep....

    thanks
    It is about 4 times as expensive... only you don't need as much...
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    i think napalm...and def write a review about it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nosnmiveins View Post
    i think napalm...and def write a review about it!
    Yep, im definitely considering doing this. Does anyone think this has better potential than lipo-y or lipo-u? I would like to keep a log of this napalm and add it to my stack of DRIVE/ACT.X/PFULL/INCARNATE.

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    haha i would also like to see a log of napalm...but with all that other stuff stacked with it.. i think the results might be a little skewed
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    I am not a big pusher of most formulas (I am a bulk powder kind of guy) but can't believe no one said RPM.

    When you work out harder you can grow better, plain and simple... I know you have drive so maybe just add some Yohimbine nutra caps instead of getter RPM (yohimbine causes vasodialation while caffiene causes constriction)

    Also consider glycerine or GMS... I think Glycerine has some solid potential and is verry ignored here.

    Finally I would say Coconut oil for cooking. Cooking with olive oil denatures the omega-6 oils into unhealthy saturated fats. Coconut oil provides healthy natural MCT's and is great for cooking (oiling a pan not really sautee).
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    Only extra virgin coconut oil, cheap arse coconut oil is proven to raise the risk of heart problems.

    Poseidon is surprising in how effective it is...
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    Quote Originally Posted by msucurt View Post
    Yep, im definitely considering doing this. Does anyone think this has better potential than lipo-y or lipo-u?
    Think of Napalm and its older brothers, Lipoderm-Y and Lipoderm-Ultra, as complementary. You don't have to pick Napalm over L-Y or L-U, or vice versa. Napalm was designed to stack with one of those two, preferably L-U.

    I'd also suggest giving the new SyntheSIZE a try- it's improved all around. Formula is better, taste is better, smell is better.
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    here's my staple that I would buy with 100 bucks or close to it. Poseidon(Big one), Green Magnitude, and like 200g of CM.
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    I would just get some protein. A good mix of slow digesting and fast digesting. Also try MST new multi-vitiamin and ZMK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    I am not a big pusher of most formulas (I am a bulk powder kind of guy) but can't believe no one said RPM.

    I know you have drive so maybe just add some Yohimbine nutra caps instead of getter RPM (yohimbine causes vasodialation while caffiene causes constriction)

    Also consider glycerine or GMS... I think Glycerine has some solid potential and is verry ignored here.
    I agree. I am a capping machine with the bulk powders. Justreading, so u think yohimbine nutra caps would be pretty good with my stack? What exactly would that allow me to do in terms of working out? Pumps?

    Also, i am very INTERESTED in glycerine. Have you ever used this and if so, what did it do for u? i have hear it causes nice vascularity among other things. Doesn't nutra carry this also?

    Any light you want to shed on those two products with my stack, would be greatly appreciated.

    thanks man
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    Staple: A basic or principal element

    ALA, NAC, F/O, Multi V,C&E maybe some CEE
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    I don't go crazy. When I remember to take them I believe I get in one 1g tab of C 2x/d and one 1000iu gelcap of E 2x/d. They are cheap Kirkland brand and I am sure that their bioavailability may be poor(er) than a premium brand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msucurt View Post
    I agree. I am a capping machine with the bulk powders. Justreading, so u think yohimbine nutra caps would be pretty good with my stack? What exactly would that allow me to do in terms of working out? Pumps?

    Also, i am very INTERESTED in glycerine. Have you ever used this and if so, what did it do for u? i have hear it causes nice vascularity among other things. Doesn't nutra carry this also?

    Any light you want to shed on those two products with my stack, would be greatly appreciated.

    thanks man
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    Personally I don't cap anything. I have yet to find a powder I can't handle straight. If I had to cap them I would NEVER buy powders, just to lazy.

    Yohimbine is for energy to replace caffiene. I will often mix 5mg yoh with 200mg caff but I try to keep the caff to a min because it is a vasiocostricor. The idea of the Yoh is not to cause pumps (although it very well might) but rather to provide energy without decreasing pumps if that makes sense.
    Actually I am surprised this concept isn't more popular in formulas.

    As far as glycerine, I know NP carries GMS (powdered glycerine basically) but it is much more costly (still cheap though.) Glycerine shows promise in the way it pulls fluids into muscles. Everyone always wants cell volumization but overlook glycerine. Glycerine also may be helpful in absorbing BCAA's and creatine because of how it pulls water into muscle cells. One particular product that is pushed on another board combines aminos with glycerine and people are obsessed with it so there is some anecdotal evidence behind this. I have only used GMS and liked it ok but did not use it often enough. My next order will include glycerine and I will use it anytime I use BCAA or creatine.
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    Nutra's got NOW Vegetable Glycerine. I just got some in my latest order and I'm thinking about trying it out today.

    BTW, I agree with the Yoh, but I think most companies would opt out of using it more often because some people just can't handle it's effects. I, myself, was taking 15mg/day with no apparent adverse effects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    Personally I don't cap anything. I have yet to find a powder I can't handle straight. If I had to cap them I would NEVER buy powders, just to lazy.

    Yohimbine is for energy to replace caffiene. I will often mix 5mg yoh with 200mg caff but I try to keep the caff to a min because it is a vasiocostricor. The idea of the Yoh is not to cause pumps (although it very well might) but rather to provide energy without decreasing pumps if that makes sense.
    Actually I am surprised this concept isn't more popular in formulas.

    As far as glycerine, I know NP carries GMS (powdered glycerine basically) but it is much more costly (still cheap though.) Glycerine shows promise in the way it pulls fluids into muscles. Everyone always wants cell volumization but overlook glycerine. Glycerine also may be helpful in absorbing BCAA's and creatine because of how it pulls water into muscle cells. One particular product that is pushed on another board combines aminos with glycerine and people are obsessed with it so there is some anecdotal evidence behind this. I have only used GMS and liked it ok but did not use it often enough. My next order will include glycerine and I will use it anytime I use BCAA or creatine.
    Can you name this glycerine/BCAA product? I'd like to read up on it.
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    I think he's referring to the Liquid Beef Aminos.

    EDIT: I think All American EFX sells them, BTW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rpen22 View Post
    I think he's referring to the Liquid Beef Aminos.

    EDIT: I think All American EFX sells them, BTW.
    Yes thats right...

    I went over there and called them out on it being AA and glycerine and boy did the circular reasoning and intimidation tactics start up quickly.

    A well known guy over there has tried EAA and glycerine and says it is as good or better than the "miracle" product.

    Also "liquid beef aminos" is an f'ing made up name (jesus I hate the guy who made up that name!) the real name is liquid amino elite
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    Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    Also "liquid beef aminos" is an f'ing made up name (jesus I hate the guy who made up that name!) the real name is liquid amino elite
    Haha yeah I figured that out after actually trying to search for "liquid beef aminos" lol. That's the only thing I ever hear it being referred to as round here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanbane View Post
    Boneless skinless chicken breasts..... currently on sale for $1.79/lb here by me. $100 worth will put more size on you than any supplements on the market.


    True, yet people continue to waste money on BCAA supplements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    True, yet people continue to waste money on BCAA supplements.
    Riddle me this Colonel Sanders. How is a guy going to store $100 (near 60lbs) in the frig. I dont live in a meat processing house. I understand chicken is a staple...make no bones about that....but staples in terms of supplements i was asking...

    So, when we work out , are we supposed to sip on a watermelong flavored chicken breast shake?

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    True, yet people continue to waste money on BCAA supplements.
    Then why are you on this board? BCAA are an example of proven core supplements not some flavor of the week kitchen sink formula. If you have a problem with the basics like BCAA then why would you ever come to a supplement based board like NP where endless products are discussed that don't have a 10th of the research BCAA's do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msucurt View Post
    Riddle me this Colonel Sanders. How is a guy going to store $100 (near 60lbs) in the frig. I dont live in a meat processing house. I understand chicken is a staple...make no bones about that....but staples in terms of supplements i was asking...

    So, when we work out , are we supposed to sip on a watermelong flavored chicken breast shake?

    :squat: :bb:

    Sure if you want to use them than its fine. I just don't think they are necessary or a staple for that matter. If your spend more on supplements than you do on food, then thats a problem. I like to try out certain supplements once in a while, but nothing is a "staple" besides a multi-vitamin, and a multi-vitamin is just so you are not deficient in certain vitamins and minerals. The truth of it is people don't eat enough of the right foods, I am guilty of this also. I could see protein drinks, if you don't get enough meat in your diet or just find it difficult to eat so much meat. They have BCAAs in them already though. Really though you don't have to gourge yourself on protein to build muscle. To me a supplement is just something extra, to help me in weaknesses in my diet. They are just to fill in the gaps because my diet is not perfect and probally never will be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Sure if you want to use them than its fine. I just don't think they are necessary or a staple for that matter. If your spend more on supplements than you do on food, then thats a problem. I like to try out certain supplements once in a while, but nothing is a "staple" besides a multi-vitamin, and a multi-vitamin is just so you are not deficient in certain vitamins and minerals. The truth of it is people don't eat enough of the right foods, I am guilty of this also. I could see protein drinks, if you don't get enough meat in your diet or just find it difficult to eat so much meat. They have BCAAs in them already though. Really though you don't have to gourge yourself on protein to build muscle. To me a supplement is just something extra, to help me in weaknesses in my diet. They are just to fill in the gaps because my diet is not perfect and probally never will be.

    I agree with your logic but the question remains: Why are you here then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    I agree with your logic but the question remains: Why are you here then?

    Well....I'm "Just reading".
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    Ha I'm not really trying to call you out but it just sounds nuts that someone with those viewpoints would spend time on a supp board.

    I am a supp skeptic myself but I like certain ones or else I wouldn't be here. Although I agree, when it comes to 90% of the stuff people on here push, I am just reading ha
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    Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    Ha I'm not really trying to call you out but it just sounds nuts that someone with those viewpoints would spend time on a supp board.
    Just an FYI, but we have evolved into a supplement (whore and pimp) board over the recent years. We used to have a LOT more bodybuilding/training, diet, transdermal recipe and ancillary discussions. This board was founded on transdermal science. Now most members here have never used, or for that matter, never heard of any of those products.

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    Chicken is not a supplement, it's a staple.
    Supplements add to a solid diet and training routine... That's what the poster is asking for...
    Supplements mean different things to different people...
    Some people would say creatine, protein and fish oil... Other's might say nothing... And some people like newer things that they find works for them...
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    Don't let a simple statement get blown out of proportion. I said chicken to remind the readers and not necessarily the posters that they need to stay grounded, and in touch w/ the important stuff.
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