Yohimbine Caps vs. Yohimbine HCL Powder

alexoc949 · 10-01-2007, 04:52 PM

I searched but really couldn't find the dosage or a great understanding of the differences between the two. Can someone who knows shed a bit of light on this?

Wondering what would be a good daily dosage if I was to get the Yohimbine Caps and the dosage for the Yohimbine HCL Powder?

Is there a difference between the two, one better than the other (as far as price/effectiveness ratio)?

caps are more convenient, but I really don't take that into play as i take a million and one powders as it is

Thanks

**B5150** · 10-01-2007, 05:11 PM

They are the same active ingredient of Y-hcl. One is capped with filler at 2.5mg/cap and the other is raw powder.

The caps are not only convenient but safer. Unless you have a scale and are good with making oral solution I advise that you refrain from using the powder.

Effective dosing is as follows: .1mg/lb of bw. This equates to 20mg for a 200lb individual.

Keep in mind that Y can have some adverse effects such as heart palpitations, anxiety and in extreme cases (overdose) hallucinations and or psychotic episodes.

It is advised to be cautious when using this.

I recommend 2.5mg caps 2-3 x per day to assess tolerance and then increase form there if needed.

It is also best used on and empty stomach or a carb free meal as insulin blunts the lypolitic effects of Y.

dsade · 10-01-2007, 05:13 PM

Brian knows what he is talking about here. I would overwhelmingly recommend tha capsules, as a YHCl overdose is EXTREMELY unpleasant.

rpen22 · 10-01-2007, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by B5150

They are the same active ingredient of Y-hcl. One is capped with filler at 2.5mg/cap and the other is raw powder.

The caps are not only convenient but safer. Unless you have a scale and are good with making oral solution I advise that you refrain from using the powder.

Effective dosing is as follows: .1mg/lb of bw. This equates to 20mg for a 200lb individual.

Keep in mind that Y can have some adverse effects such as heart palpitations, anxiety and in extreme cases (overdose) hallucinations and or psychotic episodes.

It is advised to be cautious when using this.

I recommend 2.5mg caps 2-3 x per day to assess tolerance and then increase form there if needed.

It is also best used on and empty stomach or a carb free meal as insulin blunts the lypolitic effects of Y.

Agreed. But I don't think the nutracaps have any filler, do they?

dsade · 10-01-2007, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rpen22

Agreed. But I don't think the nutracaps have any filler, do they?

Yes, they do. 2.5 milligrams is a MINISCULE amount.

rpen22 · 10-01-2007, 05:20 PM

Good point, my mistake.

I've never actually dealt with bulk Y HCl before, as you can tell.

alexoc949 · 10-01-2007, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B5150

They are the same active ingredient of Y-hcl. One is capped with filler at 2.5mg/cap and the other is raw powder.

The caps are not only convenient but safer. Unless you have a scale and are good with making oral solution I advise that you refrain from using the powder.

Effective dosing is as follows: .1mg/lb of bw. This equates to 20mg for a 200lb individual.

Keep in mind that Y can have some adverse effects such as heart palpitations, anxiety and in extreme cases (overdose) hallucinations and or psychotic episodes.

It is advised to be cautious when using this.

I recommend 2.5mg caps 2-3 x per day to assess tolerance and then increase form there if needed.

It is also best used on and empty stomach or a carb free meal as insulin blunts the lypolitic effects of Y.

Thanks for the informative reply. One question, to make sure i am completely clear.

there are 100 caps in the bottle at 2.5 mg's giving you a total of 250mg at 8 bucks.

1 gram (1000 mg) of the powder is listed as $2.50. Would it take 4 bottles of caps to equal the same potency of the powder?

i can see where trying to get a daily dosage from the powder would be tough seeing that 1/4 tsp = 410 mg.

dsade · 10-01-2007, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rpen22

Good point, my mistake.

I've never actually dealt with bulk Y HCl before, as you can tell.

Other than making transdermals (and I have buttloads of experience in this situation) yohimbine powder scares me.

dsade · 10-01-2007, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by alexoc949

Thanks for the informative reply. One question, to make sure i am completely clear.

there are 100 caps in the bottle at 2.5 mg's giving you a total of 250mg at 8 bucks.

1 gram (1000 mg) of the powder is listed as $2.50. Would it take 4 bottles of caps to equal the same potency of the powder?

i can see where trying to get a daily dosage from the powder would be tough seeing that 1/4 tsp = 410 mg.

Correct. The process of capping such small amounts within legal tolerance is quite painstaking (and expensive).

sublimejeh · 10-01-2007, 05:39 PM

Why are you scared of YHCL powder? Who cares if a little scooper is like 100 grams... just take it all like a man!!!

LOL (please dont try that...

)

alexoc949 · 10-01-2007, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dsade

Correct. The process of capping such small amounts within legal tolerance is quite painstaking (and expensive).

i bet.

Final question before I mull this over.

can you make an oral solution using water? And will the below ratio be good for weeks?

1/4 tsp = 410 mg

410 mg mixed in 41 or 82 ounces of water and refridgerate, leaving 1 ouce shots at 10 mg or 5 mg servings.

dsade · 10-01-2007, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by alexoc949

i bet.

Final question before I mull this over.

can you make an oral solution using water? And will the below ratio be good for weeks?

1/4 tsp = 410 mg

410 mg mixed in 41 or 82 ounces of water and refridgerate, leaving 1 ouce shots at 10 mg or 5 mg servings.

Yes, this is always an option. You can make any concentration and YHCl IS water soluble.

**B5150** · 10-01-2007, 06:00 PM

You can make an oral solution except YOUR 1/4tsp is not calibrated and could easily be 25-50% off resulting in a serious risk of overdose. DO NOT make a solution without at the very least a .01 scale or better. JMHO

EDIT: Unless of course you order 1g and drop it into 100ml of water. This assumes that NP is accurate in their dispensing of product...which is not in question.

alexoc949 · 10-01-2007, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dsade

Yes, this is always an option. You can make any concentration and YHCl IS water soluble.

well, that was a lot of good info. thanks.

alexoc949 · 10-01-2007, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by B5150

You can make an oral solution except YOUR 1/4tsp is not calibrated and could easily be 25-50% off resulting in a serious risk of overdose. DO NOT make a solution without at the very least a .01 scale or better. JMHO

i have measuring spoons including the 1/4 teaspoon. those can still be off by that much of a percentage if paid close attention and leveled off? or are you talking about eyeing it with a teaspoon?