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any chance of getting this soon i see custom has it but i prefer ordering from you
Agreed... I was just about to finalize an order with you, and would love to have this. :djparty:any chance of getting this soon i see custom has it but i prefer ordering from you
Are you sure that's what you saw there? I had a quick look and didn't see it...I might have missed it though.any chance of getting this soon i see custom has it but i prefer ordering from you
CNW apparently had it for a very short time, that's probably what inspired this. i don't think PA would get too upset, he currently has no competition and a bulk powder is more of a niche thing.From what I have gathered the raws are pretty expensive still and its hard to source. I dont even think AX and Ergo have as big of a margin as many might think. You cant just call up a chinese chem house for this one. Ergo is doing its final processing stateside (i think?) and AX supposedly sourced it from some South American location for cheaper (hence the better dosages/price).
Not to mention it would really piss off AX and Ergo if it started being sold bulk. I'm sure they have some kind of agreement with their business partners with whom raws are sourced.
I dunno if PA likes us enoughInteresting...I'm wondering if NP could work something out with PA so as to appease all of us bulk powder junkies :thumbsup:
PA is not the maker of XF, that is William Llewellyn.dsade and PA seem to be on good terms, hopefully they can work something out, a la the bulk x factor. it will get more reviews out there with different dosages, etc.
yeah, sorry i worded it wrong. i meant that perhaps PA would realize that making an affordable bulk product will help increase his potential market, much like the way dsade presented the idea of bulk x factor to bill LPA is not the maker of XF, that is William Llewellyn.
Sure he does :rasp:I dunno if PA likes us enough
There is no written, or even verbal agreement, between Nutraplanet and Ergo...I was just stating out position.Good way to go about it.
Unfortunately you shouldn't let anyone read this or post anything like it. Technically it constitutes a market sharing agreement and is a violation of anti trust law.
Which is more than enough should the wrong regulator read it. :thumbsup:There is no written, or even verbal agreement, between Nutraplanet and Ergo...I was just stating out position.
Watch out! Someones been watching CNBC Power Lunch (and Matlock).Good way to go about it.
Unfortunately you shouldn't let anyone read this or post anything like it. Technically it constitutes a market sharing agreement and is a violation of anti trust law.
Nope, no TV. A friend of mine had a job with his own printing press a while ago. He ran off a few hundred copies of this or that little known local horror novel, did some public domain stuff in reissues. Nothing fancy, just nicely done hardcovers. He offerred one customer a bulk price and because he didn't officially offer it to all other customers he had the government up his ass for several months for supposedly price fixing, and eventually just shut down his operation. He also didn't advertise in certain areas because he didn't want to hurt the used book stores there. That was enough to also imply a market sharing agreement even though he never spoke to anyone about it, just did it out of courtesy since a large part of their business was used horror and scifi, with the rest being romance.Watch out! Someones been watching CNBC Power Lunch (and Matlock).
Dsade, you should thank him for the free legal advice!
Im a law student (not that it means anything). While some of the things you said do "technically" have legs its highly unlikely. This is why I found your post comical.Nope, no TV. A friend of mine had a job with his own printing press a while ago. He ran off a few hundred copies of this or that little known local horror novel, did some public domain stuff in reissues. Nothing fancy, just nicely done hardcovers. He offerred one customer a bulk price and because he didn't officially offer it to all other customers he had the government up his ass for several months for supposedly price fixing, and eventually just shut down his operation. He also didn't advertise in certain areas because he didn't want to hurt the used book stores there. That was enough to also imply a market sharing agreement even though he never spoke to anyone about it, just did it out of courtesy since a large part of their business was used horror and scifi, with the rest being romance.
Good old government, making sure everyone behaves 'fairly' and 'competitively'. Likely you have to draw the attention of a real prick to get that kind of treatment, but seeing it happen once I'd definitely hate to see it happen again. All you need is one busy body wit a bur up his ass and your life and business can be over in a matter of months.
Naivety about how brutal the government can be when it decides you have violated a vague law is what makes me chuckle. Besides, legs aren't necessary. You can easily go broke in the process of trying to show you haven't violated the law which is what happened to my friend. Rather than go into hock to defend himself, he just shut down, paid off his expenses and had his lawyer work something out with the feds.Im a law student (not that it means anything). While some of the things you said do "technically" have legs its highly unlikely. This is why I found your post comical.
A) Nobody reads these forums except us dorks who buy the stuff. (see also: nobody gives a sh1t).
B) Nobody (not even a gov agent) would construe that statement to be a real violation of anti-trust law.
C) Your hypo (or example) and what Dsade did are not even close to analogous.
D) Much worse things go unnoticed and unpunished in this industry. It's highly unregulated...
and finally...
E) Armchair legal advice always makes me chuckle!
Same here. Especially when some of the prices of these supps go well into the territory where I could afford a decent steroid cycle for roughly the same price per week/day.ANYWAY, like Warnerve said, bulk powders are a little more niche. I myself will not be paying $35 to $45 for two to three weeks worth of 11-OXO/Adrenosterone. I would be willing to make a purchase at a better price if it means that I have cap the stuff myself.
Oh he can charge any price he wants. Me and the bulk people are just a real world demonstration of marginal utility.can't really blame PA if he doesn't change the price, he has no competition and he had a product before that was in the same price range and required multiple bottles and did quite well....
Have you looked into...Smilax?Oh he can charge any price he wants. Me and the bulk people are just a real world demonstration of marginal utility.
I will say this though, and that is I'm kinda of sick of manufacturers charging 30-60 and even more dollars for products that are marginally effective to ineffective. I guess idiots keep buying them so more power to them. But anything I'm going to use, especially something manufactures want me to use as a staple month to month, is going to be less than 30 and preferably less than 20.
wild yam too?..lolHave you looked into...Smilax?
I've thought of making wine with the berries.Have you looked into...Smilax?
Ever though of making Pizza with olive paste instead of sauce, Chicken breast seasoned with Oregano...with goat cheese and Flax Meal Crust?I've thought of making wine with the berries.
Edit: Then again, I've thought of making wine out avacado too.
Goat cheese makes me fart like a mad man. But, I do like the idea. Got a recipe? I don't remember seeing this in the forum. If this is a new Healthy Cheat Food coming out I might splooge.Ever though of making Pizza with olive paste instead of sauce, Chicken breast seasoned with Oregano...with goat cheese and Flax Meal Crust?
I have an idea for a healthy cheat food for you. Check PM box.Did somebody say Healthy Cheat Food?
This is all my recipe...but the pizza crust could be packaged, I suppose. Gluten-Free is the new hawtness!!Goat cheese makes me fart like a mad man. But, I do like the idea. Got a recipe? I don't remember seeing this in the forum. If this is a new Healthy Cheat Food coming out I might splooge.
I'd throw tomatoes on it too. Either sliced or diced fairly small with a little cilantro.
I know somebody that has played with this idea a few times :run:This is all my recipe...but the pizza crust could be packaged, I suppose. Gluten-Free is the new hawtness!!
What happened?I know somebody that has played with this idea a few times :run:
Hey ddawg.
Actually we do have chocolate chip cookie mix in a different form
We also have the following high protein healthy GREAT tasting mixes:
High protein Peanut Butter/Chocolate Chip cookie mix
High Protein Brownie Mix
High Protein Pizza Crust Mix
High Protein Vanilla Pudding Mix
High Protein Chocolate Pudding Mix
CROWLERHeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Viper!
Great to see/talk ahhh umm whatever we are doing
Yes those are all new products as of last week. Not exactly sure where they will be available yet. Will update when I know more.
THANKS
CROWLER
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