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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Alpine View Post
    Watch out! Someones been watching CNBC Power Lunch (and Matlock).

    Dsade, you should thank him for the free legal advice!
    Nope, no TV. A friend of mine had a job with his own printing press a while ago. He ran off a few hundred copies of this or that little known local horror novel, did some public domain stuff in reissues. Nothing fancy, just nicely done hardcovers. He offerred one customer a bulk price and because he didn't officially offer it to all other customers he had the government up his ass for several months for supposedly price fixing, and eventually just shut down his operation. He also didn't advertise in certain areas because he didn't want to hurt the used book stores there. That was enough to also imply a market sharing agreement even though he never spoke to anyone about it, just did it out of courtesy since a large part of their business was used horror and scifi, with the rest being romance.

    Good old government, making sure everyone behaves 'fairly' and 'competitively'. Likely you have to draw the attention of a real prick to get that kind of treatment, but seeing it happen once I'd definitely hate to see it happen again. All you need is one busy body wit a bur up his ass and your life and business can be over in a matter of months.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by CDB View Post
    Nope, no TV. A friend of mine had a job with his own printing press a while ago. He ran off a few hundred copies of this or that little known local horror novel, did some public domain stuff in reissues. Nothing fancy, just nicely done hardcovers. He offerred one customer a bulk price and because he didn't officially offer it to all other customers he had the government up his ass for several months for supposedly price fixing, and eventually just shut down his operation. He also didn't advertise in certain areas because he didn't want to hurt the used book stores there. That was enough to also imply a market sharing agreement even though he never spoke to anyone about it, just did it out of courtesy since a large part of their business was used horror and scifi, with the rest being romance.

    Good old government, making sure everyone behaves 'fairly' and 'competitively'. Likely you have to draw the attention of a real prick to get that kind of treatment, but seeing it happen once I'd definitely hate to see it happen again. All you need is one busy body wit a bur up his ass and your life and business can be over in a matter of months.
    Im a law student (not that it means anything). While some of the things you said do "technically" have legs its highly unlikely. This is why I found your post comical.

    A) Nobody reads these forums except us dorks who buy the stuff. (see also: nobody gives a sh1t).

    B) Nobody (not even a gov agent) would construe that statement to be a real violation of anti-trust law.

    C) Your hypo (or example) and what Dsade did are not even close to analogous.

    D) Much worse things go unnoticed and unpunished in this industry. It's highly unregulated...

    and finally...

    E) Armchair legal advice always makes me chuckle!
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Alpine View Post
    Im a law student (not that it means anything). While some of the things you said do "technically" have legs its highly unlikely. This is why I found your post comical.

    A) Nobody reads these forums except us dorks who buy the stuff. (see also: nobody gives a sh1t).

    B) Nobody (not even a gov agent) would construe that statement to be a real violation of anti-trust law.

    C) Your hypo (or example) and what Dsade did are not even close to analogous.

    D) Much worse things go unnoticed and unpunished in this industry. It's highly unregulated...

    and finally...

    E) Armchair legal advice always makes me chuckle!
    Naivety about how brutal the government can be when it decides you have violated a vague law is what makes me chuckle. Besides, legs aren't necessary. You can easily go broke in the process of trying to show you haven't violated the law which is what happened to my friend. Rather than go into hock to defend himself, he just shut down, paid off his expenses and had his lawyer work something out with the feds.

    There are some supp companies who have had perfectly legal supplements seized by the FDA only to never see the stock again and get a warning not to sell the stuff despite the fact that it's not controlled in any way shape or form. So while your interpretation of the law may be correct, the reality is who actually wins in a legal battle over that or some other interpretation has just as much to do with their resources and will to fight as it does with what the law actually says. And, given the ridiculous history of anti trust law and its application, well I think safe is better than sorry. The cereal case against General Mills I believe is a perfect example of how stupid this particular area of law can be. The judge eventually found for General Mills, but they still had to spend a ****load of money and time defending themselves.

    Edit: Lastly, seeing as how 80-90% of anti trust cases are initiated by competitors all we'd need os for someone at another shopping site to see the statement and make a complaint. I don't see that as being very far fetched, though I agree it is unlikely.

  4. ANYWAY, like Warnerve said, bulk powders are a little more niche. I myself will not be paying $35 to $45 for two to three weeks worth of 11-OXO/Adrenosterone. I would be willing to make a purchase at a better price if it means that I have cap the stuff myself.
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49

  5. Quote Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    ANYWAY, like Warnerve said, bulk powders are a little more niche. I myself will not be paying $35 to $45 for two to three weeks worth of 11-OXO/Adrenosterone. I would be willing to make a purchase at a better price if it means that I have cap the stuff myself.
    Same here. Especially when some of the prices of these supps go well into the territory where I could afford a decent steroid cycle for roughly the same price per week/day.
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  6. can't really blame PA if he doesn't change the price, he has no competition and he had a product before that was in the same price range and required multiple bottles and did quite well....

  7. Quote Originally Posted by warnerve View Post
    can't really blame PA if he doesn't change the price, he has no competition and he had a product before that was in the same price range and required multiple bottles and did quite well....
    Oh he can charge any price he wants. Me and the bulk people are just a real world demonstration of marginal utility.

    I will say this though, and that is I'm kinda of sick of manufacturers charging 30-60 and even more dollars for products that are marginally effective to ineffective. I guess idiots keep buying them so more power to them. But anything I'm going to use, especially something manufactures want me to use as a staple month to month, is going to be less than 30 and preferably less than 20.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by CDB View Post
    Oh he can charge any price he wants. Me and the bulk people are just a real world demonstration of marginal utility.

    I will say this though, and that is I'm kinda of sick of manufacturers charging 30-60 and even more dollars for products that are marginally effective to ineffective. I guess idiots keep buying them so more power to them. But anything I'm going to use, especially something manufactures want me to use as a staple month to month, is going to be less than 30 and preferably less than 20.
    Have you looked into...Smilax?
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Have you looked into...Smilax?
    wild yam too?..lol

  10. At least BCAAs and Whey come in bulk powders, lol.
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49

  11. Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Have you looked into...Smilax?
    I've thought of making wine with the berries.

    Edit: Then again, I've thought of making wine out avacado too.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by CDB View Post
    I've thought of making wine with the berries.

    Edit: Then again, I've thought of making wine out avacado too.
    Ever though of making Pizza with olive paste instead of sauce, Chicken breast seasoned with Oregano...with goat cheese and Flax Meal Crust?
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Ever though of making Pizza with olive paste instead of sauce, Chicken breast seasoned with Oregano...with goat cheese and Flax Meal Crust?
    Goat cheese makes me fart like a mad man. But, I do like the idea. Got a recipe? I don't remember seeing this in the forum. If this is a new Healthy Cheat Food coming out I might splooge.

    I'd throw tomatoes on it too. Either sliced or diced fairly small with a little cilantro.

  14. Did somebody say Healthy Cheat Food?
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49

  15. Quote Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    Did somebody say Healthy Cheat Food?
    I have an idea for a healthy cheat food for you. Check PM box.
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  16. < Waits patiently >

    EDIT: Just received Martha Stewart's recipe
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49

  17. Should be in there by now.
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by CDB View Post
    Goat cheese makes me fart like a mad man. But, I do like the idea. Got a recipe? I don't remember seeing this in the forum. If this is a new Healthy Cheat Food coming out I might splooge.

    I'd throw tomatoes on it too. Either sliced or diced fairly small with a little cilantro.
    This is all my recipe...but the pizza crust could be packaged, I suppose. Gluten-Free is the new hawtness!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    This is all my recipe...but the pizza crust could be packaged, I suppose. Gluten-Free is the new hawtness!!
    I know somebody that has played with this idea a few times
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49

  20. Quote Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    I know somebody that has played with this idea a few times
    What happened?
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  21. I'm not sure why, but it wasn't released in the US. Next time you talk to Crowler ask him if he has new stuff in the works...I honestly didn't mean to hi-jack this thread like this, but we'll take it, lol!

    Product request thread

    Quote Originally Posted by CROWLER View Post
    Hey ddawg.

    Actually we do have chocolate chip cookie mix in a different form

    We also have the following high protein healthy GREAT tasting mixes:

    High protein Peanut Butter/Chocolate Chip cookie mix
    High Protein Brownie Mix
    High Protein Pizza Crust Mix
    High Protein Vanilla Pudding Mix
    High Protein Chocolate Pudding Mix




    CROWLER
    Quote Originally Posted by CROWLER View Post
    Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Viper!

    Great to see/talk ahhh umm whatever we are doing

    Yes those are all new products as of last week. Not exactly sure where they will be available yet. Will update when I know more.

    THANKS


    CROWLER
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49

  22. No worries, I think the Adrenosterone issue is settled anyway.

    Pizza Crust would be great, and I would like to see a breakdown if you want to PM it to me (for curiosity's sake.)
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  23. I'll point Crowler your way. I haven't seen any info on these yet...I personally would like to see the macros on the High Protein Brownies and can't wait to see them for sale!
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49

  24. What about High THC Brownies? Those would sell like a dream.
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  25. I mentioned those as an appetite stimulator, but Crowler thought that Grub On was a better idea
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49
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