[Mass_69]

Hey dsade,

Got a question about applying the Abliderate. Since the carrier penetrates deep enough to hit VAT, is Abliderate systemic, or does it still target locally?

I was curious if it was actually necessary to apply it to the stomach area for waistline reduction?


Thanks.

[wheels]

Originally Posted by Mass_69

Hey dsade,

Got a question about applying the Abliderate. Since the carrier penetrates deep enough to hit VAT, is Abliderate systemic, or does it still target locally?

I was curious if it was actually necessary to apply it to the stomach area for waistline reduction?


Thanks.

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[prld2gr8ns]

Seeing as how it's a localized infusion matrix, I'd say yes apply to abs.

[wheels]

Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns

Seeing as how it's a localized infusion matrix, I'd say yes apply to abs.

So when you add formestance to it is it still localized or systematic or both ?

[prld2gr8ns]

The carrier is localized so anything added to it will remain localized.

[neoborn]

Does this differ to formestane? Which is better or are they two totally different products?

I was going to get 2 x 8oz penetrate and 2 x 5g's Formestane should I change this for better results?

[Mass_69]

Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns

Seeing as how it's a localized infusion matrix, I'd say yes apply to abs.

I guess that's what I wasn't sure about, whether or not it was a localized application. For some reason, I'm under the impression that this is a different carrier than Penetrate.

[prld2gr8ns]

Originally Posted by Mass_69

I guess that's what I wasn't sure about, whether or not it was a localized application. For some reason, I'm under the impression that this is a different carrier than Penetrate.

It is... penetrate is a systemic carrier, abliderate and lipoderm are localized carriers(spot selective.. and just what your looking for).

[prld2gr8ns]

Originally Posted by neoborn

Does this differ to formestane? Which is better or are they two totally different products?

I was going to get 2 x 8oz penetrate and 2 x 5g's Formestane should I change this for better results?

Depends on what you want. For visceral fat reduction abliderate contains 7oxo a potent cortisol reduction agent, which would help lean that midsection up. Adding form into the solution would allow for a localized application in which one could obtain the ai benefits yeilding an additional leaning aspect as well as spot selection for targeted gyno reduction by applying to the chest. In theory combining the two is the old "two birds with one stone".

[wojo]

it has BA in it..BA when it is injected or absorbed transdermally crystalizes ..thats why when you inject test or whatever with a lot of BA in it the site will be sore..it also allows you to fit more active in a solution because its a good solvent

[wheels]

Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns

Depends on what you want. For visceral fat reduction abliderate contains 7oxo a potent cortisol reduction agent, which would help lean that midsection up. Adding form into the solution would allow for a localized application in which one could obtain the ai benefits yeilding an additional leaning aspect as well as spot selection for targeted gyno reduction by applying to the chest. In theory combining the two is the old "two birds with one stone".

So if you you were to use penetrate and add 7oxo and form to it the systematic application should yield better results toward over all lean mass ?

[wojo]

Originally Posted by wheels

So if you you were to use penetrate and add 7oxo and form to it the systematic application should yield better results toward over all lean mass ?

systematically yea..abliderate is for spot reduction

[prld2gr8ns]

Originally Posted by wheels

So if you you were to use penetrate and add 7oxo and form to it the systematic application should yield better results toward over all lean mass ?

For form perhaps... with 7oxo(abliderate) the effects are primarily target at cortisol reduction which excerts visceral adipose storage. A site specific delievery to the area primarily effected by it's actions would yeild better results then systmemic.

Supposedly form helps block gyno and fat formation in the chest area, so in theory a specific delivery to the chest could in essence aid in that regard as well. For overall benefits such as increased strength, decreased shgb, and such a systemic approach would be warrented. It all just depends on what your specifically looking for out of your products.

[wheels]

Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns

For form perhaps... with 7oxo(abliderate) the effects are primarily target at cortisol reduction which excerts visceral adipose storage. A site specific delievery to the area primarily effected by it's actions would yeild better results then systmemic.

Supposedly form helps block gyno and fat formation in the chest area, so in theory a specific delivery to the chest could in essence aid in that regard as well. For overall benefits such as increased strength, decreased shgb, and such a systemic approach would be warrented. It all just depends on what your specifically looking for out of your products.

Thanks again to you and wojo for all your help.

[prld2gr8ns]

No prob man.

[wheels]

Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns

No prob man.

I have begin to see strength gains with abliberate and formestance after 2 wk's applying to abs,chest,bi's,forearms,inner thighs