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    any chance of NP getting their hands on some fadogia agrestis powder to sell in bulk ... the same main ingredient in Omega's T-Force? fadogia agrestis, dosed at 2g ED, with some bulk nettle root would be sweet stack together. im thinking of adding the two w/ Xfactor & ATD in a few months to make a killer NHA stack.


  2. How about giving Omega sometime to reap the rewards for bringing this out before ripping it off!

  3. I beleive C mentioned this happening somewhere down the road anyways.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by The Graduate View Post
    How about giving Omega sometime to reap the rewards for bringing this out before ripping it off!

  5. Quote Originally Posted by The Graduate View Post
    How about giving Omega sometime to reap the rewards for bringing this out before ripping it off!
    F.A. has been used on a smaller scale for quite some time with research dating back to almost a decade, and Omega wasnt the first company to release it. They are the company you marketed it the most/best, recently. Also, welcome to the supplement industry my friend

  6. Quote Originally Posted by ralph4u2c View Post
    F.A. has been used on a smaller scale for quite some time with research dating back to almost a decade, and Omega wasnt the first company to release it. They are the company you marketed it the most/best, recently. Also, welcome to the supplement industry my friend
    However you asked for this on Nutra's site. Nutra/Dsade and Custom seem to get along pretty well, and Dsade is not the type of guy who seems to like stealing sales after someone else makes a supp popular (see the bulk Molecular(hopefully), Avant, and USP supps on Nutra's site)
    Omega is the first company to BASE a product off Fadogia from what I can tell, give them a little time to bask in their glory.
    Welcome to a place with some integrity

  7. Quote Originally Posted by jasonschaffin View Post
    However you asked for this on Nutra's site. Nutra/Dsade and Custom seem to get along pretty well, and Dsade is not the type of guy who seems to like stealing sales after someone else makes a supp popular (see the bulk Molecular(hopefully), Avant, and USP supps on Nutra's site)
    Omega is the first company to BASE a product off Fadogia from what I can tell, give them a little time to bask in their glory.
    Welcome to a place with some integrity
    Actually this one was out before-



    It really doesn't matter though, I'll be going with Omega's version.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by ralph4u2c View Post
    F.A. has been used on a smaller scale for quite some time with research dating back to almost a decade, and Omega wasnt the first company to release it. They are the company you marketed it the most/best, recently. Also, welcome to the supplement industry my friend
    I work in the supplement industry and have done for a few years, i know who fickle it is.

    I just find it a bit frustrating when i company puts time and money into marketing something newish (yes i know there not the first but custom have bought it the mainstream) and immediatly people are on forums trying to get a bulk extract!

    In my opinion, it becomes a relentless cycle and potentially puts companies off investing in new innovative products and extracts!

  9. Quote Originally Posted by ralph4u2c View Post
    any chance of NP getting their hands on some fadogia agrestis powder to sell in bulk ... the same main ingredient in Omega's T-Force? fadogia agrestis, dosed at 2g ED, with some bulk nettle root would be sweet stack together. im thinking of adding the two w/ Xfactor & ATD in a few months to make a killer NHA stack.

    I'm sure it will happen eventually, but something to keep in mind is that Fadogia does not have a greater effect with a larger dose.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by ralph4u2c View Post
    F.A. has been used on a smaller scale for quite some time with research dating back to almost a decade, and Omega wasnt the first company to release it. They are the company you marketed it the most/best, recently. Also, welcome to the supplement industry my friend

    While this is true, we certainly went through alot of trouble to get the ingredient; working hand in hand with the Dr in Africa who did the studies; shelling out a few thousand for an analytical testing standard to be made, etc.

    I am sure it will be easier as time goes on, just as with any ingredient

  11. Quote Originally Posted by custom View Post
    While this is true, we certainly went through alot of trouble to get the ingredient; working hand in hand with the Dr in Africa who did the studies; shelling out a few thousand for an analytical testing standard to be made, etc.

    I am sure it will be easier as time goes on, just as with any ingredient
    Sort of like Havoc...sucks when people jump on in and source it out from under you.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by custom View Post
    While this is true, we certainly went through alot of trouble to get the ingredient; working hand in hand with the Dr in Africa who did the studies; shelling out a few thousand for an analytical testing standard to be made, etc.

    I am sure it will be easier as time goes on, just as with any ingredient
    yes i heard from the grapevine it was hard to find a reliable source, shipping, testing, etc which took some time, actually doing some research on it .. i bet it was a biatch. it looks like the wait is over and it seems to be hitting more mainstream and support a good demand, thats why i asked for a bulk powder ... not to steal anyones glory.

    i do have a question about t-force now that custom is here. seems that when people took myogenx, some people had stomach problems supposedly from anthraquinone found in fadogia. did the study from the doctor in africa find the extract/s that stimulate an increase in testosterone and that is the extract you guys are using for T-force or does it contain all actives found in fadogia?

  13. Quote Originally Posted by ralph4u2c View Post
    yes i heard from the grapevine it was hard to find a reliable source, shipping, testing, etc which took some time, actually doing some research on it .. i bet it was a biatch. it looks like the wait is over and it seems to be hitting more mainstream and support a good demand, thats why i asked for a bulk powder ... not to steal anyones glory.

    i do have a question about t-force now that custom is here. seems that when people took myogenx, some people had stomach problems supposedly from anthraquinone found in fadogia. did the study from the doctor in africa find the extract/s that stimulate an increase in testosterone and that is the extract you guys are using for T-force or does it contain all actives found in fadogia?

    We had one person drop doing their log because of this issue, but honestly we are unsure if it is from the fadoia or zinc.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Sort of like Havoc...sucks when people jump on in and source it out from under you.
    I know!

    Kind of like when you help someone expand their catalogue and then instead of continuing a mutual beneficial relationship, someone has them go direct instead. So not only did one person help the other, but helped himself right out of competition.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by slow-mun View Post
    Actually this one was out before-



    It really doesn't matter though, I'll be going with Omega's version.
    Okay, I heard of this stuff before. Now I am really intersted in T-Force.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Sort of like Havoc...sucks when people jump on in and source it out from under you.
    Kinda of like putting in the leg work and finding the New age of tendon and joint support and they source from right under you.

    I hate when that happens.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by USPLabs View Post
    Kinda of like putting in the leg work and finding the New age of tendon and joint support and they source from right under you.

    I hate when that happens.
    Yeah, like when you look for the exact same compound before this is ever released, yet someone still hides behind the "I am the height of innovation".

    How's that Havoc knockoff selling for you? How about that AMP knockoff?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Yeah, like when you look for the exact same compound before this is ever released, yet someone still hides behind the "I am the height of innovation".

    How's that Havoc knockoff selling for you? How about that AMP knockoff?
    I will leave you with assumptions since your great at it.

    The bulk business is built around making money off knockoffs. You knocked Havoc from Japan.

    How about when a company has exclusive extracts but the other company rides the coat tail and advertises in Anabolic Pump threads that berberine/banaba caps will be instock soon....deciet at its finest.

    I really really hate when that happens.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by USPLabs View Post
    I will leave you with assumptions since your great at it.

    The bulk business is built around making money off knockoffs. You knocked Havoc from Japan.

    How about when a company has exclusive extracts but the other company rides the coat tail and advertises in Anabolic Pump threads that berberine/banaba caps will be instock soon....deciet at its finest.

    I really really hate when that happens.

    However, AP does not contain berberine correct? Serious question, I thought it was different than berberine.
    Isn't Havoc the methylated version of a Japanese prescription drug? One that is not readily available in the US?

  20. easy fellas, remember the topic

    alright so maybe in a few months NP can work on getting some bulk F.A. - maybe even custom can sell some of his stock (kind of like USP did for NP). keep all this information in mind and see what you guys can do. thanks for the replies!

    /thread

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  22. anything ever happening with this?

    with the combo of bulk powders out now u can do mean arse stacks....

    maca 1:12
    long jack 1:200
    testofen 50%
    nettle root 95%
    and this!

    crazy times! ha

  23. well I just started getdiesel DTHC, Omega T-Force, and Testofen today. Hopefully it will be a powerhouse.
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by USPLabs View Post
    I cringe when I read some of my old posts. O, How I've grown.
    Ahh yes....next thing you know you'll be driving and ::gasp:: interested in GIRLS!!
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  26. Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Ahh yes....next thing you know you'll be driving and ::gasp:: interested in GIRLS!!
    lol

    So whats the go on this? Its in a few products now..

    I think bulk would be good, not everyone wants zma etc

  27. Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Ahh yes....next thing you know you'll be driving and ::gasp:: interested in GIRLS!!
    OMG!!! HILARIOUS!!!


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  28. Has anyone here tried T force? (how was it)?
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    Ahh yes....next thing you know you'll be driving and ::gasp:: interested in GIRLS!!
    I may even dabble in a few recreational substances....like.....creatin e.
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    Better not, I hear it causes kidney damage.
    How about Cybergenics or Hot-Stuff. Heard that gets you swole as muafucha.

  33. so dsade any chance?

  34. I just spent a little over a hour last night looking for this! ...Aside from the one study everyone knows about, all I could find was an abstract on 2 new chemicals isolated (well, new as in 07)
    I would LOVE if Nutra carried it. IT is something I'd like to see Nutra carry, as a customer. I'll leave the politics up to those to who the politics matter.

    SOOOOOOOOOO,. with that said, any chances?

  35. Quote Originally Posted by xtraflossy View Post
    I just spent a little over a hour last night looking for this! ...Aside from the one study everyone knows about, all I could find was an abstract on 2 new chemicals isolated (well, new as in 07)
    I would LOVE if Nutra carried it. IT is something I'd like to see Nutra carry, as a customer. I'll leave the politics up to those to who the politics matter.

    SOOOOOOOOOO,. with that said, any chances?
    yup yup

  36. Quote Originally Posted by AdelV View Post
    yup yup
    So it is a year later from the last post, has anyone heard any possibilities of this becoming a reality?
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  37. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    So it is a year later from the last post, has anyone heard any possibilities of this becoming a reality?

    Seems like Fadogia is not talked about much anymore, maybe loss of interest of fact that it is hard to source the real stuff. I don't think much will come of Fadogia until they find a way to make a standardized extract for an active that effect T levels somehow.

  38. maybe nutraman will show up and let us know if he is still trying to source some bulk fadogia.
    i know he was looking into it when we were putting together the TNT stack. but so far we've been able to offer a very good price including t-force.

  39. It is something that is still on the table, yes.

    But dealing with business people from Africa is extremely hard...

    The fact that internet availability is few and far between, coupled with the fact that most people over there simply do not understand American's fascination with promptness, well makes for some interesting dealsings.

  40. Quote Originally Posted by NutraMan View Post
    It is something that is still on the table, yes.

    But dealing with business people from Africa is extremely hard...

    The fact that internet availability is few and far between, coupled with the fact that most people over there simply do not understand American's fascination with promptness, well makes for some interesting dealsings.

    Ye, would be difficult!
  

  
 

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