Havoc Stack Special Possible?

  1. Havoc Stack Special Possible?


    Any chance of getting a package deal on Havoc and support supps for a cycle? Sort of an intro special?


  2. They do.. Buy 1 bottle of havoc and get lots of muscle free!

  3. damn i'm cheezy
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  4. a nice serving of pho

  5. Quote Originally Posted by propho View Post
    They do.. Buy 1 bottle of havoc and get lots of muscle free!
    And an enlarged liver, and raisen nuts, and...?

    I'm serious--if they don't want to put on the label what needs to be taken in conjunction with and after a cycle to keep their customers healthy, a package deal for a recommended "complete" cycle would at least give a rather large hint that this ain't no colored, good tasting supp you're dealing with.

    NP would move more product, and can feel happy that, while they're making a buck, they're doing their part to pump up the world in a somewhat intelligent way.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by djl View Post
    And an enlarged liver, and raisen nuts, and...?

    I'm serious--if they don't want to put on the label what needs to be taken in conjunction with and after a cycle to keep their customers healthy, a package deal for a recommended "complete" cycle would at least give a rather large hint that this ain't no colored, good tasting supp you're dealing with.

    NP would move more product, and can feel happy that, while they're making a buck, they're doing their part to pump up the world in a somewhat intelligent way.
    Well any intelligent bodybuilder researches the supps they take before they buy them. I never take something that I don't know how to use it or what it does. Its really still part of the consumers job to know what they take.

    There will always be stupid people who take more then the package says, that doesn't take support, its not Nutra's job to babysit.

  7. great post crader.

    It's YOUR job to know what YOU put in YOUR body.

    it's not more complicated then that.

  8. Sorry guys, but strong BS up in this post.

    Not only do we have companies mislabeling and doing about everything else they can to PREVENT consumers from being able to research supps, we also have teens buying supps who are unable to do the research necessary.

    Seriously, which of you two are capable of reading and comprehending the complex chemical reactions occurring when you take supps (even "simple" ones like Creatine)?

    Or did you mean research as in reading posts of other bros who are simply parroting what other bros said before them?

    And what percent of consumers will have visited any bodybuilding site, much less a forum dedicated to "prohormones"? What percentage of consumers even know they exist?

    I really do believe that the feds will be cracking down pretty hard on the industry, and that'll partly be because of the attitudes you two are showing, which seems to be an unfortunately widespread attitude among the forums.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by crader View Post
    There will always be stupid people who take more then the package says, that doesn't take support, its not Nutra's job to babysit.
    Oh, its no one's job to babysit except for a parents.


    But I believe it'd be in Nutra's best interest to keep their paying customers--yes, even the stupid ones--healthy, so they can keep spending money.

  10. and include hairloss in the package too.

    I agree with crader for the most part. Also you would not know in the first place what havoc is without researching it, so I think the same way you found out of the results it can bring you will also find out it's side's.

  11. I don't know what to tell you. If you are not willing to take responsibility for your own actions and not blame it on either the producer, labeler or retailer, then you are an un-intelligent consumer.

    As far as the research is concerned...bro-telligence does play a role in it. But reading and comprehending a study from pubmed, google scholar or any of the other journals out there on any compound is not very hard.

    The burden is on the consumer, IMO. And there is a warning on the label in the first place, so why are we even talking about this?

  12. Quote Originally Posted by PumpingIron View Post
    ..The burden is on the consumer, IMO. And there is a warning on the label in the first place, so why are we even talking about this?

    Because I started the thread with a call for a stack special:

    Quote Originally Posted by djl View Post
    Any chance of getting a package deal on Havoc and support supps for a cycle? Sort of an intro special?

    And was told that apparently PCT and support supps aren't necessary:

    Quote Originally Posted by propho View Post
    They do.. Buy 1 bottle of havoc and get lots of muscle free!


    Basically everything thing after the first post is just a bunch of BSing.

  13. Wait, who told you that ancillaries and pct weren't necessary?

  14. I agree I see nowhere in the above posting that says post- cycle therapy isn't necessary. On the other hand, if you decide to do a cycle of havoc then you should buy the cycle support even if it doesn't come in a "stack".

    If not then you take your health in your own hands.

  15. Well PCT isn't necessary if you want to lose most if not all of you gains and also have limp **** for a while..

  16. don't forget the possibility of man boobs...

  17. Quote Originally Posted by PumpingIron View Post
    don't forget the possibility of man boobs...
    Lol not many women want to compete with their man in the breast dept.

  18. so you're saying your chest is bigger than dsade's?

  19. Quote Originally Posted by PumpingIron View Post
    so you're saying your chest is bigger than dsade's?
    Depends...do I get to count the extra padding from the chest hair?
    Evolutionary Muse - Inspire to Evolve
    Flawless Skin Couture - We give you the tools to make you Flawless

  20. Quote Originally Posted by PumpingIron View Post
    so you're saying your chest is bigger than dsade's?
    Lol yes, although he is right, if you count the chest hair not many women could compete! He blows Austin Powers away...

  21. Quote Originally Posted by crader View Post
    Lol yes, although he is right, if you count the chest hair not many women could compete! He blows Austin Powers away...
    :::slips some Havoc into protein shake:::

    No worries...you should be able to compete with me soon...MUAHAHAHAHA
    Evolutionary Muse - Inspire to Evolve
    Flawless Skin Couture - We give you the tools to make you Flawless

  22. Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    :::slips some Havoc into protein shake:::

    No worries...you should be able to compete with me soon...MUAHAHAHAHA
    Not to much to compete with.....

  23. Quote Originally Posted by crader View Post
    Not to much to compete with.....
    Evolutionary Muse - Inspire to Evolve
    Flawless Skin Couture - We give you the tools to make you Flawless

  24. Maybe make everybody happy and just put a link to things like cycle support and test boosters on the same page as any hormones/prohormones. No need for a package deal, but it would help everybody who purchases one to be linked right to such items...

  25. Quote Originally Posted by crader View Post
    Not to much to compete with.....



    HAHAHAHA!!!
  

  
 

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