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    My formestane is absolutely not working with the penetrate. I have tried everything from heating every time and shaking, to every other concievable option. What is everyone doing to make it work? My 6 OXO seems to be fine but I am really getting frustrated as the formestane is an absolutely outstanding product that is a must for summertime!!!!!:bb2:

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    I have had the exact same problem with my last 2 batches of formestane. It absolutly will not dissolve in penetrate. I"ve tryied heating it, putting a marble in it, and everything else that anyone has posted. The first batch I got many months ago didn't have this problem. Something has changed I think.
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    For the record, I still feel that Penetrate is a great transdermal as everything else that I have used dissolves perfectly. It just seems to be the formestane and I really want this to work.
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    hey grexx how much of each (6-OXO/Form) do you put in your bottle of penatrate, or do you do them seperate?
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    I think dsade said the absolved carrier was necessary for it

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    I had the same problem, it only went into solution if I left the bottle in boiling hot water, once it cooled it solidified.
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    I think that was just for localized application. It used to dissolve in Penetrate for systemic application.
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    Weird...i have had zero problems if I dissolve it a little at a time.
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    Place the penatrate in a glass bottle or beaker, place the beaker in a heating pan fill to at least 2in of water. Bring the water to a boil, let the solution in the bottle sit for at least 5-10mins in the boiling water, add in Form just a little at a time as dsade mentioned(capping and shaking the bottle at regular intervals), and viola you have a effective form product. Works well for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns View Post
    Place the penatrate in a glass bottle or beaker, place the beaker in a heating pan fill to at least 2in of water. Bring the water to a boil, let the solution in the bottle sit for at least 5-10mins in the boiling water, add in Form just a little at a time as dsade mentioned(capping and shaking the bottle at regular intervals), and viola you have a effective form product. Works well for me.
    I tried this twice... fell out of solution overnight. I've had 5 grams in 4 ounces of penetrate.. then I upped it to 6 ounces. No change.
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    I have the same problem, I get it into solution, bring it too room temp slowly and it still comes out of solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedwolfWV View Post
    I tried this twice... fell out of solution overnight. I've had 5 grams in 4 ounces of penetrate.. then I upped it to 6 ounces. No change.
    Hmm, don't know what you could do now. Did you still noticed the same effects compared to the batch that did dissolve? I take it you where still using the same gr/ounce scheme correct.
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    Yea, same dose scheme, (until I added the extra 2 ounces of penetrate)

    The bottom inch or so of the bottle is crystals. Even if I shake it, it just suspends them. When I use it, it comes out very gritty.

    I have been using it this way, but even at large doses, I haven't noticed any sides like aching joints or other low estrogen sides.

    Started giving my pet ferret (he's a muscular ferret!) low dose anastrozole to combat estrogen.
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    The only thing I can think to try would be to add 5gr to an entire of bottle of penatrate. Perhaps saturation is met at that dose scheme. I've searched a couple of threads on the board here and people using that protocol didn't seem to complain.
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    Will give that a try. Thanks.
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    Had the same issues, I let the form/pen boil in a glass cup several times and finally got most the of the form to dissolve into the solution. Sometimes I noticed great effects but others when the solution came out gritty I ofcourse didnt notice much.
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    How many grams of form where you using man, and how much penatrate?
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    must be a different batch than i had a month or so ago. btw some grit is normal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    btw some grit is normal.
    Seems to be the norm. After searching around a little on various boards, seems that even the E-form product had a gritty texture as per consumers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedwolfWV View Post
    Will give that a try. Thanks.
    Just wanted to let you and every one else know that I just mixed up 5gr of Form in 8oz penatrate using a hot plate and got all of it completely into solution. It's clear as water.
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    Good deal. Hopefully it will be that way for you tomorrow still.
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    I'll let you know. It's been cooled and stored for about 4 hrs now and all is good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns View Post
    I just mixed up 5gr of Form in 8oz penatrate using a hot plate and got all of it completely into solution. It's clear as water.
    This works.
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    did you just dump all of the form in at once or little by little?
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    I used a funnel placed over my glass jar and dumped a whole 5gr baggy into it. Let it sit for about a minute or two picked up the jar and shook the sh!t out of it for about 20sec, placed back on the hot plate and let sit for another 10min and shook it again. Then turned the plate off and let sit to cool. All is good, just took my first application about 10min ago and there was no grit what so ever.
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    Guess I am trying to be to cheap by only using half a bottle. I'll do it that way next time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedwolfWV View Post
    Guess I am trying to be to cheap by only using half a bottle. I'll do it that way next time.
    I hear you on that man, 6.50 adds up after a while. I think it would be possible to get about 6-7gr into solution as the 5 seemed to go fairly easy.
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    thanks for the info.....i tried it tonight and for some reason when i dumped it in after heating, the powder got absorbed right away. works great!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by grexx View Post
    thanks for the info.....i tried it tonight and for some reason when i dumped it in after heating, the powder got absorbed right away. works great!!
    Looks like it was a saturation thing. Glad to see you got it to work grexx.

    Now this thread can help all the other people curious about a trans form run.

    P.S. Grexx you mentioned you where running this for a summer stack. Care to pm me or post your diet outline. Just curious.
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    this is an all you need to know thread, nice job guys.
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    I was tempted to try throwing both 6-OXO and Form in the same but figured that I didn't want to push my luck with saturation. I have them in 2 different bottles and use 150-200 mgs/day of both. Lovin' the results!!
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    I guess now you will all have to experiment with the LOCALIZED lipophilic carrier with formestane, and watch it....Abliderate that chest fat.

    Damn, what a cool name...Abliderate....what in the world is he babbling about though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by grexx View Post
    I was tempted to try throwing both 6-OXO and Form in the same but figured that I didn't want to push my luck with saturation. I have them in 2 different bottles and use 150-200 mgs/day of both. Lovin' the results!!
    Agreed, I'm taking in around 160mg/day and really seeing some nice vascularity improvements after only 4days of use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    I guess now you will all have to experiment with the LOCALIZED lipophilic carrier with formestane, and watch it....Abliderate that chest fat.

    Damn, what a cool name...Abliderate....what in the world is he babbling about though?
    Wouldn't that name be much better suited for the 7oxo and localized carrier combo. For the form, you could go with Pecs-N.A-Flash
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    Quote Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns View Post
    Wouldn't that name be much better suited for the 7oxo and localized carrier combo. For the form, you could go with Pecs-N.A-Flash
    Ahhh...perhaps this is going to have the 7-OXO in it already, just not at saturation point, so there will be plenty of room to add some Formestane.

    And localized means you would not need as much to be effective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Ahhh...perhaps this is going to have the 7-OXO in it already, just not at saturation point, so there will be plenty of room to add some Formestane.

    And localized means you would not need as much to be effective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns View Post
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    Got a new batch of form from NP. Dissoved the 5 grams into 4ml BA + 6ml penetrate (in a sterile glass jar-- shook like hell!) All of it dissolved. Then I added that to just under 1/2 bottle penetrate. No grit at all!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedwolfWV View Post
    Got a new batch of form from NP. Dissoved the 5 grams into 4ml BA + 6ml penetrate (in a sterile glass jar-- shook like hell!) All of it dissolved. Then I added that to just under 1/2 bottle penetrate. No grit at all!
    Works like magic.
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